Open season for college girls on SA (or tall tales from doughy nerds)

This happened a few days ago, sorry to warn my friends late, got busy with some good finds, and, of course, work.

Scammers list on SA:

Princess Nicole 5
Lovely boricua 25
Dominican flavor 09

Reference:
https://utopiaguide.pl/forums/threads/cl-scam-meet-now.53897/

Been chatting on SA with them, something about the phraseology, story line, seemed odd, strangely similar and actually familiar.

Are they all the same? One girl, multiple profiles, same scam?

Came down to discussing meeting places, wanted per meet, turned out that 1 and 2 were "together", struggling, kids, single moms, etc.

Could even do a no holes barred double. Something clicked. One of the numbers looked familiar. Bingo.

That's the number in my 'scam' thread.

Beautiful!

Asked for, and was given my vantage room. I knew this was fake, had already arranged a meet with another SB, timing her visit for a little later.

Ah, the same black Sonata! "Boricua" had texted me that it was going to be just her, was it ok? Uh huh.

Room #? Well, come here first.

Car actually moves past my window, I see there is another - would have been a 4 some, as one could make two BBWs from her cohort.

We are here. Uh huh, I don't see you. Well, what's the room #? Nope, I need to see you first. Drive slowly.

They do. Hilarious. Craning her neck out. I see clearly that this is my scammer.

Make them drive again. Then text her, I saw you and I don't want to see you. The pleas start, about gas, rent, whatever.

Let that go on for a bit. Then told her why. "Not me, I would never, etc". If I had the slightest doubt, I would have given her a chance.

But then, she shouldn't have texted me from that number.

I do have a weird memory for numbers.

Had a ball with my SB ten minutes later. They were still in the parking lot, texting me pics, Lol!

V
Guys... if you are on SA please report these profiles. Particularly Lovely Borica 25. I was messaging with her a couple of weeks ago and knew right away from the way she was talking that something was up. Now I know it is confirmed. I just reported all 4 of them. Need to teach these scammers of lesson
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
This happened a few days ago, sorry to warn my friends late, got busy with some good finds, and, of course, work.

Scammers list on SA:

Princess Nicole 5
Lovely boricua 25
Dominican flavor 09

Reference:
https://utopiaguide.pl/forums/threads/cl-scam-meet-now.53897/

Been chatting on SA with them, something about the phraseology, story line, seemed odd, strangely similar and actually familiar.

Are they all the same? One girl, multiple profiles, same scam?

Came down to discussing meeting places, wanted per meet, turned out that 1 and 2 were "together", struggling, kids, single moms, etc.

Could even do a no holes barred double. Something clicked. One of the numbers looked familiar. Bingo.

That's the number in my 'scam' thread.

Beautiful!

Asked for, and was given my vantage room. I knew this was fake, had already arranged a meet with another SB, timing her visit for a little later.

Ah, the same black Sonata! "Boricua" had texted me that it was going to be just her, was it ok? Uh huh.

Room #? Well, come here first.

Car actually moves past my window, I see there is another - would have been a 4 some, as one could make two BBWs from her cohort.

We are here. Uh huh, I don't see you. Well, what's the room #? Nope, I need to see you first. Drive slowly.

They do. Hilarious. Craning her neck out. I see clearly that this is my scammer.

Make them drive again. Then text her, I saw you and I don't want to see you. The pleas start, about gas, rent, whatever.

Let that go on for a bit. Then told her why. "Not me, I would never, etc". If I had the slightest doubt, I would have given her a chance.

But then, she shouldn't have texted me from that number.

I do have a weird memory for numbers.

Had a ball with my SB ten minutes later. They were still in the parking lot, texting me pics, Lol!

V
Great story! Love it!
 
At the end of the day it's up to you and her. If the allowance / number of meets is too high don't do it. If she wants something more often I can understand that but if it doesn't work for you then you need to either work that out with her or move on. OTOH if you're nice to her etc she may be ok with it. As you say you already got a preview and both of you sounded content.

BTW, although being original regarding parking lots and stuff can be exciting, fun, etc. be careful. Sounded like you were on private property and 20 minutes is a long time for somebody to notice you there for 20 minutes. The ATF and I get a kick out of some of our "interactions" too but it's easy to let your guard down and get in trouble. We've run into po po and somebody calling on us on a few occasions being naughty and silly and barely escaped at least a ticket and worse and that's while still being aware of our surroundings.

I agree, but we lucked out, a senior living place. I'm guessing it wasn't time for the staff change so no foot traffic & I doubt the residents walking to far from the front door. I parked between a cars with a good view all around.
I guess we'll see how this plays out. Updates to follow.
 
Selection bias...

But also, some of the freakiest women I’ve been with were also among the most insecure. For many, I felt like being sexual was a way of getting positive feedback. If you start off with an economically disenfranchised woman who has little in the way of life experience and maybe only an average college education, what other means will she have of garnering the respect of someone older and far more accomplished? My guess is that the rush of being a “peer” plays a big role for a lot of these women. And my further guess is that before SA, they did not have a ton of exposure to very successful people.
I'm not convinced of that but let me back up yeah I sort of have seen that with said alleged disenfranchised but the problem is I've also seen it with the exact opposite all equally ranging from brats, daddy's girls, wealthy snobs, and everything in between. I'm more apt to thing that in addition to what you say that society norms have changed. Also, internet porn opened the eye to anybody wanting to look. And probably a bunch of other things.
 
I can't relax no matter where i am. I need room to spread out and relax...
Same here. But if the opportunity is there to fool around can't always be totally selective. I've learned there is a cost and a pro and a con to everything and so what you need to do is be practical. At least that's how I look at it.

The biggest mistake most mongers make when getting their rocks off in a car..of course depending upon what you are doing..is going to a dead end street..or the back of a supermarket or whatever...while being the only one there makes you stick out like a sore thumb. Most of the time it's better to go to a lot where there is activity..to some degree..a la NND..and obviously keep your eyes open!
Right, too many are often thinking let's be alone and discreet and where nobody can see us and definitely all they are doing is sticking out like a sore thumb with a neon sign saying "LOOK HERE".
 
Yeah. I've been doing car dates for a long time! I know the deal. I park around other cars. Try for darkness. Move to back seat. Lay myself as low as i can while still trying to be able to peek out the windows and watch for ppl passing closely or cops out cruising... still can't relax. Prefer incall, hotel or home, any day of the week... the excitement of a car date wore off years ago.
I'm never totally relaxed either but after some trial and error seems some places have been consistently drama-free. For instance supermarket and restaurant lots. Not looping around 20 times looking all over, changing spots, etc but as in actually being familiar with the place, being a patron, and before or after, do what you need to do. That way you know the flow, the time, and the where. In fact even here you can stick out like a sore thumb enough times.

There are also some places which are really only parking streets, along a highway, across from a park, etc. and ditto often little foot traffic. As above know where they are beforehand.

Some shall I say natural areas also have natural spaces for this too.

At least this has been my luck when a real room and bed isn't available.
 
I agree, but we lucked out, a senior living place. I'm guessing it wasn't time for the staff change so no foot traffic & I doubt the residents walking to far from the front door. I parked between a cars with a good view all around.
I guess we'll see how this plays out. Updates to follow.
Updates? You mean you'll do it again there?
 

justme

homo economicus
I'm not convinced of that but let me back up yeah I sort of have seen that with said alleged disenfranchised but the problem is I've also seen it with the exact opposite all equally ranging from brats, daddy's girls, wealthy snobs, and everything in between. I'm more apt to thing that in addition to what you say that society norms have changed. Also, internet porn opened the eye to anybody wanting to look. And probably a bunch of other things.
Money is just one dimension of social standing, although one that’s almost always in effect for sugar relationships

My broader point is that many women (people?) turn to sexuality when they want to punch in a higher social standing weight class. See: groupies, teachers’ pets, rope lines, executive assistants with outsized roles, etc

Recall, the context here is sugar relationships being more sexually charged than civilian ones. So women who I (you?) meet in a dating context tend to be my peers in most respects and so are less likely to have insecurities driving their sexuality. This is especially true of the subset of those women who I’d actually consider having a meaningful relationship with.
 
Money is just one dimension of social standing, although one that’s almost always in effect for sugar relationships

My broader point is that many women (people?) turn to sexuality when they want to punch in a higher social standing weight class. See: groupies, teachers’ pets, rope lines, executive assistants with outsized roles, etc

Recall, the context here is sugar relationships being more sexually charged than civilian ones. So women who I (you?) meet in a dating context tend to be my peers in most respects and so are less likely to have insecurities driving their sexuality. This is especially true of the subset of those women who I’d actually consider having a meaningful relationship with.
Well said. This has some credence to it.
 
Guys... if you are on SA please report these profiles. Particularly Lovely Borica 25. I was messaging with her a couple of weeks ago and knew right away from the way she was talking that something was up. Now I know it is confirmed. I just reported all 4 of them. Need to teach these scammers of lesson
Thanks for chiming in, if not corroborating, G2k.

What was the red flag? I'm very new to SA, and taken in isolation, it seemed like a decent story line (may be even true - kids, rent, gas, etc).

Some of the CL/BP terms, phrases, etc do percolate through in SA chats. Fair enough, where else can a "legit" girl seeking financial assistance go?

Scammers are also easy to spot: getting favorited by someone in Venezuela or Brazil or South Africa - either looking for a visa or outright "Nigerian Prince" email scam in new (or bare minimum!) clothing.

Would love to learn what set you off, G2k.

Also, no idea how SA deals with 'flagged' girls. Matter of fact, I don't know HOW to flag on SA, lol!

V
 
This happened a few days ago, sorry to warn my friends late, got busy with some good finds, and, of course, work.

Scammers list on SA:

Princess Nicole 5
Lovely boricua 25
Dominican flavor 09

Reference:
https://utopiaguide.pl/forums/threads/cl-scam-meet-now.53897/

Been chatting on SA with them, something about the phraseology, story line, seemed odd, strangely similar and actually familiar.

Are they all the same? One girl, multiple profiles, same scam?

Came down to discussing meeting places, wanted per meet, turned out that 1 and 2 were "together", struggling, kids, single moms, etc.

Could even do a no holes barred double. Something clicked. One of the numbers looked familiar. Bingo.

That's the number in my 'scam' thread.

Beautiful!

Asked for, and was given my vantage room. I knew this was fake, had already arranged a meet with another SB, timing her visit for a little later.

Ah, the same black Sonata! "Boricua" had texted me that it was going to be just her, was it ok? Uh huh.

Room #? Well, come here first.

Car actually moves past my window, I see there is another - would have been a 4 some, as one could make two BBWs from her cohort.

We are here. Uh huh, I don't see you. Well, what's the room #? Nope, I need to see you first. Drive slowly.

They do. Hilarious. Craning her neck out. I see clearly that this is my scammer.

Make them drive again. Then text her, I saw you and I don't want to see you. The pleas start, about gas, rent, whatever.

Let that go on for a bit. Then told her why. "Not me, I would never, etc". If I had the slightest doubt, I would have given her a chance.

But then, she shouldn't have texted me from that number.

I do have a weird memory for numbers.

Had a ball with my SB ten minutes later. They were still in the parking lot, texting me pics, Lol!

V
Hmm, I'm usually able to look up with little problem none of them showing up for me.
 
Money is just one dimension of social standing, although one that’s almost always in effect for sugar relationships

My broader point is that many women (people?) turn to sexuality when they want to punch in a higher social standing weight class. See: groupies, teachers’ pets, rope lines, executive assistants with outsized roles, etc

Recall, the context here is sugar relationships being more sexually charged than civilian ones. So women who I (you?) meet in a dating context tend to be my peers in most respects and so are less likely to have insecurities driving their sexuality. This is especially true of the subset of those women who I’d actually consider having a meaningful relationship with.
As I've gotten older a kind of weird truth has revealed itself to me and that is there is an awful lot of people with insecurities even those most people would think don't have any and in some cases it appears that some of those thought to not have many have more and are just better maskers. At least that's the way I see it.

Similarly as for the charged or not situation I view it more as chicken and egg. That is are they more charged because of the incentive or were they already charged and the incentive is just a means of their own manipulation. I'm positive there is enough folks in both categories.
 
What was the red flag? I'm very new to SA, and taken in isolation, it seemed like a decent story line (may be even true - kids, rent, gas, etc).

Some of the CL/BP terms, phrases, etc do percolate through in SA chats. Fair enough, where else can a "legit" girl seeking financial assistance go?

Scammers are also easy to spot: getting favorited by someone in Venezuela or Brazil or South Africa - either looking for a visa or outright "Nigerian Prince" email scam in new (or bare minimum!) clothing.

Would love to learn what set you off, G2k.

Also, no idea how SA deals with 'flagged' girls. Matter of fact, I don't know HOW to flag on SA, lol!

V
Just like here is a report button you can click on.

I don't know what alerted him, but IME flags include:
* Photos clearly not all of the same person
* Almost similar profile that you've seen in the past
* Husband died of say not a heart attack but of high blood pressure
* A marriage minded individual whereas there is love desired etc and as above you know you've seen it previously so it just not "authentic" enough
* The profile contradicts itself
* You ask them a question they should know the answer to and it's wrong or cryptic or ....
* I've run into problems with profile picture that involve sitting in the driver's seat of a car with their seatbelt on (yeah I know weird)
* Digits in the ID name which make no sense (many people like to use their birthday, year of birth or something witty)
* Changing their story every message
* Asking for more and more every message
* Asking all details of the arrangement in their first message under the pretext of getting past it
* Some dire situation which you MUST help them with
* Asking you to call them right away
* Making you feel guilty in some ways
* Constant postponement of everything
* Wanting to know all your personal details right away

None of these are guarantees but flags IMO
 

justme

homo economicus
there is an awful lot of people with insecurities even those most people would think don't have any
Sure. Every day I go to work with and for thousands of millionaires who are driven by their insecurities.

But I think you’re confusing “there exists” with “it is likely that”. In any case, it is my experience that the people I’ve dated in a more traditional context -especially as I got older- were far more likely to consider me as something like an equal than the people I’ve dated through more commercial channels. At least in the case of SA, I think some of that is baked in to the expectations of both sides.

Maybe your experience differs.

That is are they more charged because of the incentive or were they already charged and the incentive is just a means of their own manipulation.
I completely agree that SA is self-selecting for people that think they can trade on sexuality. And I highly suspect that rather than an “or” there’s quite a bit of “and” in action.
 
Actually I know a few millionaires with insecurities. In any event, I was tending to be focus on SBs in my response, and many of they ae not millionaires, ditto for the equal aspect, which as you say is baked into some parts in some case and not in others, that is doing a on night p4p can be very different than a LT arrangement than is not 100% sex based. Yep still an imbalance but there is one on both sides on different issues.
 
Another success last night.
I've got 2 regular SBs i'm seeing. Both had poor excuses to not see me last night. I actually have 1 SB that's so enamored with me that she no longer wants money, she wants to marry me and have babies with me (she's kept at a far distance but keep her handy just in case). Anyway, no luck with the regulars. There's 1 girl who was so nasty with me when I made my regular offer, that I kept her number and throw her a text just to mess with her sometimes. I had some free time and couldn't get my dick sucked by my regulars...sooo... I throw her a text. Her usual belligerent self. I start to flirt a little. She starts to warm. She reluctantly agrees to meet for a car date. I'm desperate so we meet in the middle at 80 bbbjtc with spit.
I pick her up. She's on time, looks lovely. This is around 11 last night. She says she's happily surprised. How nasty I am over text, she thought I'd be an ugly prick... lol
We find the perfect spot, into the back seat... she proceeds to devour me. This girl gave one of the best, deep throat, sloppy, spit on my cock, gag herself, tried to swallow with my cock down her throat bjs, I've ever had. Worked me better than almost anyone else ever has. And when I start to nut, I can feel her throat doing the swallow motion and she swallowed every drop. Cleaned me up and smiled at me.
I sat there stunned, giggling! She sat there and smiled. I said, what was that?! Holy shit! She said, that was the nicest cock I've ever had in my mouth, thank you (remember I was just groomed last week at that dump in bellmore). I always rinse and do I good once over on my junk before meeting anyone. I prefer to be fresh. Well talk about a pay off. She was so appreciative of those 2 things, the reward was unreal!
Anyway. She texted with me till after 1. Says she can't wait to see me again. I fought HARD with this girl! Like real enemies! Lol. Now i'm seeing her again tomorrow night.
Moral of the story is, you never know on SA!
 
Another success last night.
I've got 2 regular SBs i'm seeing. Both had poor excuses to not see me last night. I actually have 1 SB that's so enamored with me that she no longer wants money, she wants to marry me and have babies with me (she's kept at a far distance but keep her handy just in case). Anyway, no luck with the regulars. There's 1 girl who was so nasty with me when I made my regular offer, that I kept her number and throw her a text just to mess with her sometimes. I had some free time and couldn't get my dick sucked by my regulars...sooo... I throw her a text. Her usual belligerent self. I start to flirt a little. She starts to warm. She reluctantly agrees to meet for a car date. I'm desperate so we meet in the middle at 80 bbbjtc with spit.
I pick her up. She's on time, looks lovely. This is around 11 last night. She says she's happily surprised. How nasty I am over text, she thought I'd be an ugly prick... lol
We find the perfect spot, into the back seat... she proceeds to devour me. This girl gave one of the best, deep throat, sloppy, spit on my cock, gag herself, tried to swallow with my cock down her throat bjs, I've ever had. Worked me better than almost anyone else ever has. And when I start to nut, I can feel her throat doing the swallow motion and she swallowed every drop. Cleaned me up and smiled at me.
I sat there stunned, giggling! She sat there and smiled. I said, what was that?! Holy shit! She said, that was the nicest cock I've ever had in my mouth, thank you (remember I was just groomed last week at that dump in bellmore). I always rinse and do I good once over on my junk before meeting anyone. I prefer to be fresh. Well talk about a pay off. She was so appreciative of those 2 things, the reward was unreal!
Anyway. She texted with me till after 1. Says she can't wait to see me again. I fought HARD with this girl! Like real enemies! Lol. Now i'm seeing her again tomorrow night.
Moral of the story is, you never know on SA!
Getting a girl emotional is a good thing. Be it angry or happy. You can turn anger into intrigue and well then the possibility is what you experienced. She was curious probably most guys kiss her ass.
 
Hmm, I'm usually able to look up with little problem none of them showing up for me.
No spaces between names and numbers.

Don't know if upper and lower cases are important, but princess (lower case p) with upper case for Nicole.

It's Lovely boricua (one word) followed by the number.

And Dominican flavor (one word), 09 had an underscore before it.

V
 
I sat there stunned, giggling! She sat there and smiled. I said, what was that?! Holy shit!
In light of your wonderful experience, the mods were discussing your post this morning at our breakfast meeting and we think you should change your handle to
igotagreatbj248. We are so thrilled at your good fortune, we will even spring for new business cards for you.
 
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