Why did you pay so much? You're ruining it for the rest of us!

billyS

Reign of Terror
#1
Rin Kato

This place has developed into one of my favs because they have a constant rotating roster and theyre all usually above expectation. Theyre website is always up to date and well maintained. As expected, Rin Kato looked just like her photos and was beautiful. Shes a bit taller than most at probably around 5'7 or 5'8, perky B cup tits, and a fat ass that matches her body perfectly. Shes well proportioned and has a great smile

I enter and she gives me a nice warm hug. We undress and head to the shower. They only offer standing showers here to my knowledge so just keep that in mind if youre expecting a TS or rimjob, not gunna happen. We clean up and head back to the room. She drops to her knees and gives me a great BBBJ. Not championship quality but definitely good and she isnt afraid to get it sloppy. After getting her onto her back I take a look at her kitty. Perfectly bald, pretty, and nice and clean. I couldnt help but dive in for some DATY. She was truly responsive and enjoying it so I spent a good amount of time there.

Afterwards we started off in some passionate missionary. She was very clean, smelt nice, and was ready for me to enter her. She lubed me up with her hand (no cover) and smiled at me as if she was eagerly waiting to get fucked. I did notice she is not the type of girl you can pin her knees to her shoulders and pound like a porn scene. She definitely had some limitations in terms of deep fucking but it was still great. We did 10 min of solid mish before we headed into K9. She has a great ass and it was nice to watch it move while i fucked her slowly one stroke at a time. We ended up finishing back in some standing mish. When getting close to cumming, i asked her where she wanted and she said anywhere you want. Thats a pretty nice answer. I opted to COF/CIM as she is gorgeous. She was so eager for my load as it landed all across her tongue, she wanted every drop and even showed me her tongue after as if she was asking "are you proud of me?".

Afterwards she complimented me saying that our session was very good. She mentioned shes only in town for a few weeks so if you want a visit now is your time. She offered me a shower and after chatting a little bit I went on my way. Very satisfied would definitely visit again if i have extra time.

Face 9/10
Body 9/10
Service 9/10

Damage 400+200 PSE
Why did you pay $200 for PSE? Isn't $100 the standard tip for bbfs?
Was that negotiated ahead of time, during the session or after?
Or did you just feel like ruining it for everyone else and reach into your pocket and pull out a $200?
 
#2
Why did you pay $200 for PSE? Isn't $100 the standard tip for bbfs?
Was that negotiated ahead of time, during the session or after?
Or did you just feel like ruining it for everyone else and reach into your pocket and pull out a $200?
They're hitting these dudes on the head cause many will pay. The Japanese pros are telling each other to charge that rate. On top of $600 he's asking where he can deposit.

This was always my point. When a person goes in not disciplined in doing a transaction you just accept what they tell you. The Japanese pros came over here and you could fuck em no cover no fee. The guys who were so awestruck started giving them $100-200. Then they would ask mms who does bbfs? The girls decided easy money from these guys.

Crazy part is mms Gaga was bbfs queen at no charge for many years.

My point the masses always ruin a good thing.
 
#3
Why did you pay $200 for PSE? Isn't $100 the standard tip for bbfs?
Was that negotiated ahead of time, during the session or after?
Or did you just feel like ruining it for everyone else and reach into your pocket and pull out a $200?
I paid it cause im rich and dont give a shit. Sorry. Didnt ask/negotiate anything prior but ill be sure to take your financial standing into consideration next time.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#4
I paid it cause im rich and dont give a shit. Sorry. Didnt ask/negotiate anything prior but ill be sure to take your financial standing into consideration next time.
Hahahah, thanks for the honest response .

Feel free to continue to be a big spender and with a clear conscience as to my financial situation since I don't partake in Asian STD super spreader houses.

My comment, as anyone who follows UG already knows was a sarcastic dig at all the guys who constantly bitch and moan in the SA and Street Action threads about guys over paying and "ruining it for others".

I actually thank you for having the balls to give an honest answer to that question for all to see.
 
#6
They're hitting these dudes on the head cause many will pay. The Japanese pros are telling each other to charge that rate. On top of $600 he's asking where he can deposit.

This was always my point. When a person goes in not disciplined in doing a transaction you just accept what they tell you. The Japanese pros came over here and you could fuck em no cover no fee. The guys who were so awestruck started giving them $100-200. Then they would ask mms who does bbfs? The girls decided easy money from these guys.

Crazy part is mms Gaga was bbfs queen at no charge for many years.

My point the masses always ruin a good thing.
Actually it’s former bbfs ladies and MMS like Gaga (takes a cut)and idiots who show the girls this forum and others that fuck it up as well. There are so many guy Desperate to fuck a girl raw that they don’t take the time to see a provider 2-3 visits then fuck them raw every visit there after until they move houses or leave the game. It’s a job for these ladies if you overpay that’s up to you..sometimes it may be the best option for some guys.
 
#7
Actually it’s former bbfs ladies and MMS like Gaga (takes a cut)and idiots who show the girls this forum and others that fuck it up as well. There are so many guy Desperate to fuck a girl raw that they don’t take the time to see a provider 2-3 visits then fuck them raw every visit there after until they move houses or leave the game. It’s a job for these ladies if you overpay that’s up to you..sometimes it may be the best option for some guys.
I asked multiple girls in multiple spas about tips and bbfs extras cuz. They all said all tips are theirs and not share with the house.

Ddy. ShangriLa. 10ten Asian Star. Pleasure palace. Jpk NYCSE. Xoxo girls kovergirls
 
#8
I’m not one to argue or haggle. But I’m not an idiot either. If some nasty beast is looking for 300 for FS, I’m gonna just turn that person down. It’s obviously a waste of my time. But why haggle to knock someone down $20 and have the service lackluster because her ego is hurt and she’s annoyed she’s getting priced down…..

There is a big double standard on this board. And Breanna Breeze is a great example. I had my balls busted a little bit for paying her 400 an hour. But there are a few girls that advertise on here that charge that same rate and no one complains and they all happily pay and give her wonderful awesome reviews. And then they will pay double that for one of her good friends to join in and hold a threesome.

Am I missing something??
 
#9
Actually it’s former bbfs ladies and MMS like Gaga (takes a cut)and idiots who show the girls this forum and others that fuck it up as well. There are so many guy Desperate to fuck a girl raw that they don’t take the time to see a provider 2-3 visits then fuck them raw every visit there after until they move houses or leave the game. It’s a job for these ladies if you overpay that’s up to you..sometimes it may be the best option for some guys.
I asked multiple girls in multiple spas about tips and bbfs extras cuz. They all said all tips are theirs and not share with the house.

Ddy. ShangriLa. 10ten Asian Star. Pleasure palace. Jpk NYCSE. Xoxo girls kovergirls
He's right the house doesnt get any of the bbfs tip . They keep all tips. They just hitting dudes over the head cause Men are desperate. It was free when the Japanese first got here in 2020 then it was $100 now $200 some or maybe most charge. I dont pay the $200 nor would I.

Lmaooooo at being rich and fucking the same pros as regular working day guys fuck . And overpaying cause i got it like that.
 
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...... But why haggle to knock someone down $20 and have the service lackluster because her ego is hurt and she’s annoyed she’s getting priced down…......
In my many, many years of mongering I have found that the girls have two modes:
1.Price negotiation
2. Performance

They are unrelated.

Once you have established pricing (and she recognizes you), future visits are no longer discussed and you just pay what you paid prior
 
#12
In my many, many years of mongering I have found that the girls have two modes:
1.Price negotiation
2. Performance

They are unrelated.

Once you have established pricing (and she recognizes you), future visits are no longer discussed and you just pay what you paid prior
You may just validate my point even more so.

Let’s say both me and you go to see the same provider. I pay the 100 she asks for in her ad. You’ve some how knocked her down to 80. You call to set up for your usual services. She tells you “yeah come on over and text me when you get here”. I call five minutes after you. She answers the phone “hey babe come on over , I can’t wait to see you again” . A half hour later, I’m in her room with my cock deep in her. You’re in the parking lot wondering why her phone went straight to voice mail.

Mind you, it’s rare that I see providers more than once. But when I do, they remember me and open their doors with no hesitation.
 
#14
You may just validate my point even more so.

Let’s say both me and you go to see the same provider. I pay the 100 she asks for in her ad. You’ve some how knocked her down to 80. You call to set up for your usual services. She tells you “yeah come on over and text me when you get here”. I call five minutes after you. She answers the phone “hey babe come on over , I can’t wait to see you again” . A half hour later, I’m in her room with my cock deep in her. You’re in the parking lot wondering why her phone went straight to voice mail.

Mind you, it’s rare that I see providers more than once. But when I do, they remember me and open their doors with no hesitation.
WADR, I simply have not have experienced what you describe.

Also, I do see a provider more than once (I usually monger 3X a week but do not repeat during the week). So the girl risks pissing off a repeat, reliable, freshly showered customer for 20 bucks ?
 
#15
You may just validate my point even more so.

Let’s say both me and you go to see the same provider. I pay the 100 she asks for in her ad. You’ve some how knocked her down to 80. You call to set up for your usual services. She tells you “yeah come on over and text me when you get here”. I call five minutes after you. She answers the phone “hey babe come on over , I can’t wait to see you again” . A half hour later, I’m in her room with my cock deep in her. You’re in the parking lot wondering why her phone went straight to voice mail.

Mind you, it’s rare that I see providers more than once. But when I do, they remember me and open their doors with no hesitation.
Not a full take though. I agree in your example
on calling a girl and negotiation by a new guy trying to knock $20. She would most likely take the regular price guy but she would tell him to reschedule if she was professional.

The bbfs $ part is different and often negotiated in middle of a heated session and I don’t recall girl not passionate because I paid less than what she asked. And if I got it for less, I pay the same next time.

There are also girls who CIP for free first time then that’s established as you said and I can CIP free next time as well but she will ask another guy for CIP tip. For whatever reason be it he’s less well kept, less attractive or he looks like he has money. (I am not saying i am more attractive just saying it’s more than just $ differences). Hell she’s in a bad mood or whatever

I had girls who hung out with me even thought I knew I didn’t tip for CIP. (Just lunch or dinner - not free fucking). Again, they probably just hungry.
 
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Not a full take though. I agree in your example
on calling a girl and negotiation by a new guy trying to knock $20. She would most likely take the regular price guy but she would tell him to reschedule if she was professional.

The bbfs $ part is different and often negotiated in middle of a heated session and I don’t recall girl not passionate because I paid less than what she asked. And if I got it for less, I pay the same next time.

There are also girls who CIP for free first time then that’s established as you said and I can CIP free next time as well but she will ask another guy for CIP tip. For whatever reason be it he’s less well kept, less attractive or he looks like he has money. (I am not saying i am more attractive just saying it’s more than just $ differences). Hell she’s in a bad mood or whatever

I had girls who hung out with me even thought I knew I didn’t tip for CIP. (Just lunch or dinner - not free fucking). Again, they probably just hungry.
That's exactly how it works. She takes less from some over others. She isn't mad you negotiated, they understand. That's an add on not her base rate.
 
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I asked multiple girls in multiple spas about tips and bbfs extras cuz. They all said all tips are theirs and not share with the house.

Ddy. ShangriLa. 10ten Asian Star. Pleasure palace. Jpk NYCSE. Xoxo girls kovergirls
Lol you actually asked? Of course the girl keeps all of the bbfs extras. There's simply no way for the house to enforce taking a cut. The girl would simply tell the mms they went covered.

There are some place that charge different amount for different level services but same time (ie cbj vs BBBJ, dfk, 69, etc). I'd pay for a gfe service and the girl would tell me if the mms asks tell them I got basic service so the house gets a smaller cut. Short of having cameras in the room there's just no way they can confirm what happens in there.
 
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You may just validate my point even more so.

Let’s say both me and you go to see the same provider. I pay the 100 she asks for in her ad. You’ve some how knocked her down to 80. You call to set up for your usual services. She tells you “yeah come on over and text me when you get here”. I call five minutes after you. She answers the phone “hey babe come on over , I can’t wait to see you again” . A half hour later, I’m in her room with my cock deep in her. You’re in the parking lot wondering why her phone went straight to voice mail.

Mind you, it’s rare that I see providers more than once. But when I do, they remember me and open their doors with no hesitation.
That only works if the provider is also the gatekeeper. In places where the mms handles the appointment, how much you paid prior has no bearing.
 
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