When mongers advertise for Providers

billyS

Reign of Terror
#1
Being here many years I've seen people try to get over with a lot of shit. Girls will try to advertise without paying. These feeble attempts are caught right away and threads are closed.

But what I'm seeing more and more is guys acting as proxy for a girl so she doesn't need to advertise. I'm sure they are doing it for reduced sessions or even bbfs.

Some are very clever and stay just inside the rules. Like posting a review every few weeks even though it is the same review and adds nothing new. But hey that's allowed.

Then there is the little trick of ALWAYS welcoming a new poster in the thread and letting him know that "hey every visit gets better". Hmmmm
Or slipping in things like, "I called so and so and she was busy this week but she will be back next week" Oh really, thanks for posting her availability, that would have cost her about $100 a month or what ever the UG ad costs these days.

And you guys see it.

So I ask, maybe we should change the rules on repeat reviews when the service is the same all the time?

What do paying providers like Sophia think about woman with their own threads that are constantly updated for free?

Where do we draw the line?

What do you guys consider Free advertising?
 
#2
Jeez lol. In the future, I will only include the ads pictures. I can see that posting an add with promotional info (although permitted) can have a fine line.

Mr B, was the one who promoted the idea a long time ago, that way the info would still be here, when it’s no longer availableon whatever site. I always try and make sure I do so, to make it easier on everyone else... no need to copy and past the number and google it. I wish more people would do it. A lot of people were before the switchover to the pl.

I have enjoyed my sessions with Lury. A lot.Others have others have not. I post about my sessions with her because I want you guys to give her a try, #1- with the hopes you’ll have the same session as me.... and #2 with this one specifically mention UG to get her to advertise. I’ve tried to get her to, got to the finish line.. and now at a stand still.

Also the notion that my posts were “ads” or “promotions”... that make her not have to advertise....really? I Don’t see many other reviews about her.
This site has helped me out for the past several years. I don’t have a thousand posts, but the overwhelmingly large amount of my posts are providing helpful, factual information and reviews. Yea there are couple throw aways and ISO’s. But I do my part. You coming at me as a shill or proxy..whatever dude. You’ve added so much content to this site that has helped me out, I’m not even gonna argue with you. Think what you want. I don’t bullshit people. And I’m certainly not gonna argue with a random dudes on a whore board.

Fact is- I told the truth, I broke no rules, and contributed to the site.. and No, I’m not getting “special service” for writing a review . And if I was, I’d tell eveyone- hey write a positive review and you’ll get special service! Cmon man...

I envy the lurkers at this point. Smh.

Good luck to you BillyS.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#4
Jeez lol. In the future, I will only include the ads pictures. I can see that posting an add with promotional info (although permitted) can have a fine line.

Mr B, was the one who promoted the idea a long time ago, that way the info would still be here, when it’s no longer availableon whatever site. I always try and make sure I do so, to make it easier on everyone else... no need to copy and past the number and google it. I wish more people would do it. A lot of people were before the switchover to the pl.

I have enjoyed my sessions with Lury. A lot.Others have others have not. I post about my sessions with her because I want you guys to give her a try, #1- with the hopes you’ll have the same session as me.... and #2 with this one specifically mention UG to get her to advertise. I’ve tried to get her to, got to the finish line.. and now at a stand still.

Also the notion that my posts were “ads” or “promotions”... that make her not have to advertise....really? I Don’t see many other reviews about her.
This site has helped me out for the past several years. I don’t have a thousand posts, but the overwhelmingly large amount of my posts are providing helpful, factual information and reviews. Yea there are couple throw aways and ISO’s. But I do my part. You coming at me as a shill or proxy..whatever dude. You’ve added so much content to this site that has helped me out, I’m not even gonna argue with you. Think what you want. I don’t bullshit people. And I’m certainly not gonna argue with a random dudes on a whore board.

Fact is- I told the truth, I broke no rules, and contributed to the site.. and No, I’m not getting “special service” for writing a review . And if I was, I’d tell eveyone- hey write a positive review and you’ll get special service! Cmon man...

I envy the lurkers at this point. Smh.

Good luck to you BillyS.
Frogger54, if you didn't read all my posts in that thread, I did say that when I read what I had wrote I didn't like the way it read, it was too confrontational. But since my posts are being Moderated they are in limbo once I hit post and there is no way for me to edit them.

That said, I have no reason to doubt anything you said above.

Furthermore, this thread wasn't written with you in mind, it was only because the topic of free advertising came up in the Lury thread but there are far more blatant examples on the board.
 
#5
Being here many years I've seen people try to get over with a lot of shit. Girls will try to advertise without paying. These feeble attempts are caught right away and threads are closed.

But what I'm seeing more and more is guys acting as proxy for a girl so she doesn't need to advertise. I'm sure they are doing it for reduced sessions or even bbfs.

Some are very clever and stay just inside the rules. Like posting a review every few weeks even though it is the same review and adds nothing new. But hey that's allowed.

Then there is the little trick of ALWAYS welcoming a new poster in the thread and letting him know that "hey every visit gets better". Hmmmm
Or slipping in things like, "I called so and so and she was busy this week but she will be back next week" Oh really, thanks for posting her availability, that would have cost her about $100 a month or what ever the UG ad costs these days.

And you guys see it.

So I ask, maybe we should change the rules on repeat reviews when the service is the same all the time?

What do paying providers like Sophia think about woman with their own threads that are constantly updated for free?

Where do we draw the line?

What do you guys consider Free advertising?
I agree completely with what you are saying. It is obvious in some cases. I don't like not giving examples of who but it's frowned upon here.

I have seen one pro about 17-20 times. I reviewed her once. I saw another girl 13 or so times I reviewed her twice. I only review em when the girl does something new squirts, dt's, offered anal etc. Reviewing a girl so often just looks ridiculously odd.
 
#6
Jeez lol. In the future, I will only include the ads pictures. I can see that posting an add with promotional info (although permitted) can have a fine line.

Mr B, was the one who promoted the idea a long time ago, that way the info would still be here, when it’s no longer availableon whatever site. I always try and make sure I do so, to make it easier on everyone else... no need to copy and past the number and google it. I wish more people would do it. A lot of people were before the switchover to the pl.

I have enjoyed my sessions with Lury. A lot.Others have others have not. I post about my sessions with her because I want you guys to give her a try, #1- with the hopes you’ll have the same session as me.... and #2 with this one specifically mention UG to get her to advertise. I’ve tried to get her to, got to the finish line.. and now at a stand still.

Also the notion that my posts were “ads” or “promotions”... that make her not have to advertise....really? I Don’t see many other reviews about her.
This site has helped me out for the past several years. I don’t have a thousand posts, but the overwhelmingly large amount of my posts are providing helpful, factual information and reviews. Yea there are couple throw aways and ISO’s. But I do my part. You coming at me as a shill or proxy..whatever dude. You’ve added so much content to this site that has helped me out, I’m not even gonna argue with you. Think what you want. I don’t bullshit people. And I’m certainly not gonna argue with a random dudes on a whore board.

Fact is- I told the truth, I broke no rules, and contributed to the site.. and No, I’m not getting “special service” for writing a review . And if I was, I’d tell eveyone- hey write a positive review and you’ll get special service! Cmon man...

I envy the lurkers at this point. Smh.

Good luck to you BillyS.
He isn't just speaking about you and not even mainly you. He even said how he knows you've contributed. Coming on here seems a bit defensive.

I have no idea if you get anythinh extra. I'm just saying someone who does what Billy is saying often looks odd.
 

Sophia Belle

Trickle Down Economist
#7
Being here many years I've seen people try to get over with a lot of shit. Girls will try to advertise without paying. These feeble attempts are caught right away and threads are closed.

But what I'm seeing more and more is guys acting as proxy for a girl so she doesn't need to advertise. I'm sure they are doing it for reduced sessions or even bbfs.

Some are very clever and stay just inside the rules. Like posting a review every few weeks even though it is the same review and adds nothing new. But hey that's allowed.

Then there is the little trick of ALWAYS welcoming a new poster in the thread and letting him know that "hey every visit gets better". Hmmmm
Or slipping in things like, "I called so and so and she was busy this week but she will be back next week" Oh really, thanks for posting her availability, that would have cost her about $100 a month or what ever the UG ad costs these days.

And you guys see it.

So I ask, maybe we should change the rules on repeat reviews when the service is the same all the time?

What do paying providers like Sophia think about woman with their own threads that are constantly updated for free?

Where do we draw the line?

What do you guys consider Free advertising?

It’s annoying but if I’m being honest, I’ve been guilty, got banned, got a pass to try again, been reprimanded, put in my place and finally just submitted to the inevitable . But the fact is, I found the value in following the rules here.

So rather than taking a stance on it, I’ll just respect whatever Slinky and the community decide is fair.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#8
It’s annoying but if I’m being honest, I’ve been guilty, got banned, got a pass to try again, been reprimanded, put in my place and finally just submitted to the inevitable . But the fact is, I found the value in following the rules here.

So rather than taking a stance on it, I’ll just respect whatever Slinky and the community decide is fair.
Well thanks for responding.
I can see why it would be annoying to you that you are paying while other girls consistently get their threads bumped to keep them in the conversation.
You're a class act, which is why you're so popular here.
 
#9
Frogger54, if you didn't read all my posts in that thread, I did say that when I read what I had wrote I didn't like the way it read, it was too confrontational. But since my posts are being Moderated they are in limbo once I hit post and there is no way for me to edit them.

That said, I have no reason to doubt anything you said above.

Furthermore, this thread wasn't written with you in mind, it was only because the topic of free advertising came up in the Lury thread but there are far more blatant examples on the board.
I did read your posts, and saw that you tried to retract the comment. I just wanted to respond, but Mr B said any further posts about this are not allowed in her thread. The reason I felt this was about my post is because not only what you wrote after my review, but a bunch of other guys piling on, some of which never seen or at least never reviewed her. Even posts like this:

He isn't just speaking about you and not even mainly you. He even said how he knows you've contributed. Coming on here seems a bit defensive.

I have no idea if you get anythinh extra. I'm just saying someone who does what Billy is saying often looks odd.
“Emphasize on he isn’t JUST talking about you”... still implicating me as a “proxy”

Also “I have no idea if you get anything extra”... I already stated that I have not. So take a seat

I think I’m just gonna be done posting, unless I have a question. Seems to be the best route on here these days

Good luck to everyone going forward!
 
#10
I’m sure my opinion doesn’t matter but I don’t think this site should have paid advertising except banner adds or perhaps some legitimate commercial sponsors, like some motels n hotels that offer 3 hour specials or maybe video stores and actual commercial operations like that. I don’t think it’s to hard to see why accepting money from individual providers to promote the services offered probably isn’t the best source of revenue.

I am curious how much it cost to run this site i would assume maybe a few grand a year on the high side?

I would probably geuss some of the older guys on this site might be married with kids and have no other outlet to discuss the hobby. Maybe that’s why they post every time they see a provider? Perhaps someone in a sexless marriage that has found this site and hobby to be a great way to let off steam.

Or maybe another poster says oh so n so is flakey and hasn’t gotten back to me... so a reviewer might want to respond to inform members if he got in touch with her only to find out she’s out of town for a week.

These are all possible explanations but either way it doesn’t matter because it shouldn’t be a question. This is supposed to be an online community of people sharing valuable information. I owe a lot to this site because it gave me the confidence to join SA when previously I thought it was a scam site.

I have literally seen one single provider out of all the hundreds if not thousands I have read about online. I don’t remember her name but she went mia when I was still lurking so I never reviewed her but she was a diamond in the rough, cute average looking sword swallowing 18yr old Asian girl in bk that could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, oh how I miss her lol

I really do enjoy reading this site and all the funny stories so much so that I care about the well being of this site. However I don’t think making more rules or any stricter enforcement based on hearsay or accusations would benefit the site.
 
#11
.....I think I’m just gonna be done posting, unless I have a question. Seems to be the best route on here these days.....
You left out "So there!"
The problem with text is that you do not see the posters face; if you could more of the poster's intent would be less open to misinterpretation. The emojis help some what.
That said, I know I've enjoyed your posts and I'm suspect many others do also.

Back to my "So there!" — as in "I think I’m just gonna be done posting — so there!"

If I posted it as: You left out "So there!":) you would know that I was joking.
 
#12
You left out "So there!"
The problem with text is that you do not see the posters face; if you could more of the poster's intent would be less open to misinterpretation. The emojis help some what.
That said, I know I've enjoyed your posts and I'm suspect many others do also.

Back to my "So there!" — as in "I think I’m just gonna be done posting — so there!"

If I posted it as: You left out "So there!":) you would know that I was joking.
Emojis work well. Not too many on here but they do work well and the young chicks can relate well to the Emojis.
 
#14
Ya know, BillyS, your 100% right. If I remember correctly, the "old forum" had post counts under screen names. One way everybody can tell who is a newbie/shill. I wonder if that could be brought back?.......
 
#15
Ya know, BillyS, your 100% right. If I remember correctly, the "old forum" had post counts under screen names. One way everybody can tell who is a newbie/shill. I wonder if that could be brought back?.......

Hey LI Doc, if you click on their name you can see. I clicked on yours it said 90 comments, they day you joined


And I’m putting a :D here just because my last one seems to have disappeared lol
 
#16
@billyS , you bring up some very good points. While I don't feel qualified to talk about free advertising/shilling portions of your post, I do have some thoughts about the other issues, specifically repeat reviews on the same girl. I tend to frequent MP's and might see the same girl several times. Personally, I follow @Uniquelyme 's guideline - I'm not going to review every session with the same provider unless there's something new to report. Mostly because my reviews take an hour to type since every time I start one I apparently turn into James Joyce.

However, as a community the review threads are supposed to be for us to be able to know what we're getting with our money, right? So though there might be 25 reviews of the same girl, if a new poster wants to give a 26th review so he can get out of moderation, why not, even if there's nothing to new to add? For example, descriptions...sometimes I'll just say "she looks exactly as described in this thread."

The entire topic is interesting and I often wonder how best to organize our little corner of the internet here in order to both maximize the returns on our investments and be safe.

That being said, @Mr. Wiggley 's reviews of his ATF sessions are so fun to read I hope he does every one every time!
 
#18
Hey LI Doc, if you click on their name you can see. I clicked on yours it said 90 comments, they day you joined
You don't even have to click on the screen name to see that info while on a computer. You can just hover over it with your mouse. But you were probably talking about accessing the site from a phone.
 
#19
You don't even have to click on the screen name to see that info while on a computer. You can just hover over it with your mouse. But you were probably talking about accessing the site from a phone.
Yes as usual Sir B you are correct. I access UG on my Apple product. I have a Microsoft computer so I don’t use it for porn or other questionable sites (lesson learned years ago) I use my iPad “Safari” because I’ve been told Apple Products block viruses.. I have not researched this... but 8 years later... not one “virus” or “hack attack”, while my computer (Microsoft) gets viruses constantly. I have to pay to upgrade my systems security every year...no expert here. Just my experience.

Anyone with more expertise, I beg for more info. I much prefer to use my PC than this stupid iPad...

Side Note to @Mr. Wiggley i was unfortunately drinking a soda when I read your last post. You owe me a new shirt lol. I know it’s early but that was the funniest post of the year!
 
#20
Yes as usual Sir B you are correct. I access UG on my Apple product. I have a Microsoft computer so I don’t use it for porn or other questionable sites (lesson learned years ago) I use my iPad “Safari” because I’ve been told Apple Products block viruses.. I have not researched this... but 8 years later... not one “virus” or “hack attack”, while my computer (Microsoft) gets viruses constantly. I have to pay to upgrade my systems security every year...no expert here. Just my experience.

Anyone with more expertise, I beg for more info. I much prefer to use my PC than this stupid iPad...
I have always , other than my iPhone, have had Windows based products. I have a free Avast virus protection; 10 years before that I had free TrendMicro. I do not use Microsoft firewall as in the past it was always a joke, (maybe better now but I'm happy with what I have been using), instead I use free Zonealarm firewall. I use Firefox browser for all my legit stuff and Internet Explorer with everything disabled for UG and the like. I have never had a computer virus or have been hacked (unless you count my security clearance stuff that was hacked at the FBI's site). I keep my computers updated the day each update comes out.
 
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