Whatever became of backwalking?

#21
Is this place still open just under a née name and management and if so are the services still on point and on par like back in the day? Like I said I haven’t been in over a decade.
To be honest with you, I have been overseas for quite a while now. I am not sure about the original "Osaka," because the name was sort of plagiarized, and many spas were using some derivation of the name "Osaka," and nobody knew which was the real one anymore, at a glance.

But, a quick search revealed that "Salon de Tokyo" is still in business. They have been in business for 50 years now. I used to go there pretty regularly back in the 80's. They were authentic shiatsu back then and if they are in business for 50 years, I can't see them maintaining a reputation on subpar shiatsu. They moved down the street from their original location but still are on 57th Street. I believe it is 5 East 57th Street in NYC.

I learned of them about 40 years ago, when I was big into shiatsu, actually studying it and dating a Korean owner of a major authentic Japanese/Korean spa. We hired girls from Salon de Tokyo because their reputations preceded them.

But, those girls were like hired guns or even like independent contractors, and would work for different reputable spas, even once dedicated to one, if a customer called for her. There was respect between the last few remaining authentic shiatsu spas left in the city.

It was getting hard to compete with the illegitimate parlors spilling into the city in the 80's, and the legits were suffering financially, especially with the 70's and 80's Second Japanese (Financial) Invasion of America being done and over with. If you are old enough to remember, (I am sure you are not) that was a time when the unheard of was happening for that era, when iconic American properties and institutions were being bought up by Japanese business men and they needed authentic Japanese spas, restaurants and hotels to carry on with their lives, as if still in Japan.

But, you might try Salon de Tokyo. I remeber going there often and being friendly with the staff and taking very hot saunas and plunging into the very cold pool. Nobody had that type of facility at that time. Now refrigerated pools are becoming quite popular. And, the shiatsu was authentic.

Possibly some good shiatsu massage still can be found in K-Town. When the Koreans open up a new business, they spare no expense to make it state-of-the-art.

Hope that helps and I like your new moniker.
 
#22
Thanks man much appreciated will have to check this out now wow! I am a fan of this type of establishment and service. How much does it cost roughly altogether with the cold pool and sauna?
 
#23
Thanks man much appreciated will have to check this out now wow! I am a fan of this type of establishment and service. How much does it cost roughly altogether with the cold pool and sauna?
I just haven't been around lately to know the prices. I also have never been to Salon De Tokyo's new location. I don't know if they continued with the hot cedar sauna and cold pool. You have to call before going for price and what they offer.

But, I see that your "Osaka Spa" is still in business on West 46th Street. I remember that being a great spa and I remember back then on the backwalking, they did not have the familiar stainless steel pole for the girl to balance on, but they had like a multiple rope system, hanging from the ceiling, the real old traditional Japanese style.

If you have good memories of them and had a good experience with them from the past, maybe go back.

Sorry I can't help any further. I haven't been around that scene for a while now. I am not in the New York area for a while.

But, the difference between massage and backwalking from a real institution and your typical AMP is just no comparison. I can remember leaving those true legit deep shiatsu spas in a totally different consciousness and I felt it even more deeply the next day. Because their "focus" is on you and your health and not on "extras," and draining your wallet. It was for guys who really were critical and knew the huge difference between "skilled/trained" and a sloppy uneducated walk on your back.

But, all that being said, once you know what a true shiatsu backwalking is supposed to feel like, and it is not available in the outer boroughs, I often will direct my typiccal AMP girl on what to do and how to do it. You can train a young girl easily in a matter of minutes to at least get a partial experience, but you have to be half enjoying it and half directing it.

When you go to a real seasoned professional, you just enter into the room, shut down your brain and body, and surrender to a true qualified specialist that knows how to hit and stay on all the points of stress to really free up your body and mind. Once you find a good one, don't let her go. A good one has a powerful aura and is dedicated to you and to her work and reputation.

Sorry that I can't vouch for any one place right now. I have been out of the loop for a long time now. You will have to search around a bit to find what is available now, especially in the new world after the virus.
 
#24
The best experience I had was in florida King spa. First she gave me a bath then a massage then she walked my back, she even walked on my arms and hands. Hell she could of walked on my nuts and it would have been great it was awesome and the hand release at the end was the best I had.
Speaking about walking the back, I just so happened to be eyeing this place Healthy foot spa in Tiffany plaza in Farmingville 631-991-8668.
I tried it on for size yesterday was looking for a legit place. The place is run by an older gentle man looks like they may have male and female masseuse. I go for the half, I get a nice young girl maybe 30's.
To make a long story short she did a great massage she walked my back real nice and she even took her leggings off because she was using a technique with her knees and thighs on my back. I did not get a name but she was great and this place is definitely a legit place.
 
#25
The best experience I had was in florida King spa. First she gave me a bath then a massage then she walked my back, she even walked on my arms and hands. Hell she could of walked on my nuts and it would have been great it was awesome and the hand release at the end was the best I had.
Speaking about walking the back, I just so happened to be eyeing this place Healthy foot spa in Tiffany plaza in Farmingville 631-991-8668.
I tried it on for size yesterday was looking for a legit place. The place is run by an older gentle man looks like they may have male and female masseuse. I go for the half, I get a nice young girl maybe 30's.
To make a long story short she did a great massage she walked my back real nice and she even took her leggings off because she was using a technique with her knees and thighs on my back. I did not get a name but she was great and this place is definitely a legit place.
Nice review. I have to go into Flushing to get a back walk.
However, I think you made a long story just a tad too short, i.e., prices and tip?

I like a strong massage I like to get beat up. I asked for strong massage but she was not as strong as others I had but it was very good.
 
#31
Gfespa on west 38th has the poles for backwalking
That's the key. If there are poles, backwalking is possible. Without poles, it's hard to do and therefore unlikely.
For example, When they were at their old place on Elizebeth street, EBS had the poles (in both the VIP room and even the worst room). That was great and it was easy to get back-walked....and also useful for other activities. Sadly at their new location they don't have the bars....I think the story here is the absence of bars.
 
#33
Without the poles it is outright dangerous for both the walker and especially for the person being walked on. Also, when they walk, besides the help with balance, they can control the downward forces by transferring weight to the poles.
Exactly! I now realize that in my original comment, I understated the extent of the danger and complete lack of viability for safe and skilled (thusly therapeutic ) back walking.
 
#35
I appreciated MongerManiac historical perspective.

I miss the sauna rooms. It may have cut a few minutes into the action but it was always a great way to start.

Thankfully table showers are still tons of fun.
 
#36
I appreciated MongerManiac historical perspective.

I miss the sauna rooms. It may have cut a few minutes into the action but it was always a great way to start.

Thankfully table showers are still tons of fun.
As an aside, when I used to go to Lily Spa in Danbury Connecticut (many moons ago) they would lead you to the sauna where you would relax as long as you wanted to (w/o cutting into your time), then to the table shower and then back to the your room for the paid for massage time. I think the table shower time counted toward your massage time.
https://utopiaguide.pl/forums/index...ecutive-oriental-spa.5471/page-2#post-1252659
 
#37
As an aside, when I used to go to Lily Spa in Danbury Connecticut (many moons ago) they would lead you to the sauna where you would relax as long as you wanted to (w/o cutting into your time), then to the table shower and then back to the your room for the paid for massage time. I think the table shower time counted toward your massage time.
https://utopiaguide.pl/forums/index.php?threads/sn-therapy-danbury-ct-•-203-798-1244-•-now-called-executive-oriental-spa.5471/page-2#post-1252659
Yeah, Stamford also had some great places with saunas. I think that's all ancient history now.
 
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