What was Wwanderer's SAT score?
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Beyond SATs
Agreed, of course. Moreover, I feel confident that there are school systems in the country which treat minorities more fairly than the SATs do, so to speak. There are also ones which unquestionably treat them less fairly, in my opinion. If you grew up in, and only have direct experience with, one of the former, you may have trouble imagining how bad it can be in the latter.
What is really needed, again imo, is not so much to get rid of the SATs as to replace them with (or improve them until they become) much better objective, standardized tests. ETS is such a monopoly, unfortunately, that this is not easy to do. But even if one had a really superb standardized test, I think it should still only be one of many factors considered in the admission process.
People are too complicated and the goals of the admission process too diverse (it is not just to maximize the probability of successful completion of a degree) to rely on any single measure or system.
-Ww
Originally posted by justme
Let me also state that subjective, although inherently unfair, is not necessarily more fair than objective.
Let me also state that subjective, although inherently unfair, is not necessarily more fair than objective.
What is really needed, again imo, is not so much to get rid of the SATs as to replace them with (or improve them until they become) much better objective, standardized tests. ETS is such a monopoly, unfortunately, that this is not easy to do. But even if one had a really superb standardized test, I think it should still only be one of many factors considered in the admission process.
People are too complicated and the goals of the admission process too diverse (it is not just to maximize the probability of successful completion of a degree) to rely on any single measure or system.
-Ww
Originally posted by pjorourke
Does anyone besides me find it ironic that Wwanderer has made about half the posts in a thread entitled "What was Wwanderer's SAT score?"
Does anyone besides me find it ironic that Wwanderer has made about half the posts in a thread entitled "What was Wwanderer's SAT score?"
-Ww
PS - 16 is about what fraction of 84?
A - about half
B - about 1%
C - nearly all
D - there is a remainder, damn it!
E - some of the above
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Originally posted by pjorourke
I knew you would count them!
I knew you would count them!
-Ww
Hey, thats neat. I didn't know that was there.
BTW, watch it with calling me a former accountant. I never had that little personality (God, I'm gonna hear it know!).
You are right, I am a numbers guy -- but more big picture though. I arely count or add columns of numbers. And I round a lot. An early boss once taught me that anything past 3 significant digits was bullshit anyways.
BTW, watch it with calling me a former accountant. I never had that little personality (God, I'm gonna hear it know!).
You are right, I am a numbers guy -- but more big picture though. I arely count or add columns of numbers. And I round a lot. An early boss once taught me that anything past 3 significant digits was bullshit anyways.
Originally posted by Wwanderer
No (human) counting needed; have you ever tried clicking on the link listed as a number in the Replies column (just to the right of the column that gives the name of the participant who started the thread) in the list of threads for a given UG forum? As a former accountant and geneal numbers guy, you'll love it!
-Ww
No (human) counting needed; have you ever tried clicking on the link listed as a number in the Replies column (just to the right of the column that gives the name of the participant who started the thread) in the list of threads for a given UG forum? As a former accountant and geneal numbers guy, you'll love it!
-Ww
What was this thread doing up it doesn't look like anyone but me has posted on it recently? (I don't want you to think I was researching your SAT scores.)
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No SAT thread is complete without the story of the quest for a perfect score: all wrong: http://www.colinfahey.com/2003apr5_sat/2003apr5_sat.htm
Good readin.
Good readin.
The whole college admissions process is a scam, though. Years ago NYU Law School made the stupid mistake of allowing a reporter to witness their entire admissions process. The article (I think it was in New York Magazine) told of two students, one with a 4.0 college average and top LSAT scores, the other with a 3.9 average and slightly lower scores. The 4.0 kid was a shoe in until one of the admissions officers noticed that the 3.9 kid played the violin. His musical acumen placed him above the scholar.
I didn't know playing the violin was such an important skill for an attorney.
I didn't know playing the violin was such an important skill for an attorney.
Originally posted by pjorourke
Say, what was Wwanderer's score?
Say, what was Wwanderer's score?