Vacation spots to take providers

#21
Wow, sounds like a pretty low batting average, lgs!

To what extent were these trips that never happened ever real (a serious intention) and/or do you think in hers? Were one or both of you just doing a bit of ordinary SC conning the other in order to get more from the other in the club? Were the trips ever planned with any significant specifics - destinations, schedules, financial arrangements and such - or were they simply vague agreements to "go somewhere together one of these days" sort of things?

Also, where these dancers with whom you had already spent significant time OTC?

-Ww
They were with dancers that I've know, sometimes for years. But I never really pursued the trips because I simply didn't have the balls to. It seemed like so much planning and lying at home to make it happen.

But the reason I started this thread, is because I still want to do it....
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#25
I am sure you are joking, but I actually think that it would be a good place, depending on the girl.
There is actually a funny story behind that but any more detail and it might cause a shit storm.
It does not involve ME taking a provider there, someone else did.

I'm not sure if he still lurks here, changed his handle, died.......
 
#26
LOL. Yes it's a low BA. But girls can see quickly that I am not a big-spender. If they are perceptive, they can tell that I am respectful and not cheap, though.
I try working that angle. My conclusion is that high rolling pricks can pass as misunderstood geniuses -- and get pussy, but nice guys who are good for favors, a sympathetic ear, and an honest review on UG are only as good as their next paycheck.
 
#34
I travel quite often with gentlemen, and I personally prefer when we go to someplace tropical, although larger metro areas can also be fun.

For the travel, there are several things to take into consideration. The most important, is it a business trip that you are trying to have a little fun with, or pure vacation?

If it is a business trip that you are trying to add some fun too, you want to make reservations at a hotel that is either close to many area activities, or is more self-contained; pool, spa, beach, shops, etc. Trust me, you don’t want to come back to a room where a lady has been stuck in it with nothing to do.

A hint. I have never had this happen to me, but I do know of several ladies that it has happened to. If it is a business trip, and you believe that because you will be in business meetings for half of the day and not with her, that this in some way indicates that you should haggle for a lower rate, don’t.

With traveling, there are not half day rates available for a reason. When you take a lady out of her work area, she is not able to continue to earn her income. Yes, you may be taking her away, paying for airfare, the room and so forth, and even if you have a very good relationship, time together, this still is her business.

Yes, it’s a “vacation” but a vacation does not mean that her daily expenses at home have also taken a vacation. The majority of “working girls” do not have an IRA that they are investing in, or a company matched retirement program, a pension, medical benefits, paid sick time, or stock investment programs.

Everything they have for the future comes directly from what they earn, whether it is if they get sick or hurt for a month and have to pay all of their medical expenses, or if they have a sick child at home, that they have to take time off to care for them. Speaking of which, many ladies do have children at home, and for them to travel means that they also have to hire a nanny.

I knew one lady, who was offered a 3 day “vacation” and the person offered her 600 for the 3 days. Her normal fee was 250 an hour. She had children at home. For her to hire a babysitter for that hour, plus travel time, would have been nominal. For her to travel, it would in the end have cost her out of her own pocket to go on the vacation, as the nanny, for 24 hour periods would have been charging her over 250 for each day. (about 10 an hour) Babysitters still charge when the kids are sleeping. And if it’s not kids, it might be pets, or whatever, but the point is, while it may seem like a great idea, and a wonderful gift, the one thing to ultimately remember is that these women still have other lives.

People often question certain things, like why women charge so much for “what is fun”. The reality is, if you enjoy seeing a woman, at the drop of a hat, or even with a 24 hour notice, there is a reason she is able to do this. Basically part of the pay, is to help be a “beck and call” girl.

Now, the places. I personally travel quite often as a companion. My favorite places have always been coastal trips. I Florida, some of my own personal favorites are The Trump Sonesta in Miami. Outstanding personal service and very discreet. I travel there often with a regular, we are rather well known there together, and the staff knows I am not his wife.

When the wife calls, asking any questions, which she has, they alert us immediately. They have allowed him to keep two separate set of bills and have arranged some amazing times for us to enjoy together. Oh, and to die for in room massages. Ask the attendant to face the massage table towards the ocean. No better view while getting all the kinks taken out.

Another great one is the Naples Ritz. Very self-contained. You never have to leave if you don’t want to. If you do, I suggest dining at TruLucks. We normally fly into Miami, rent a convertible and make the drive across alligator alley, which can be fun. No in room massage, but the spa building is pure lux. Ice baths. Waterfalls. Steam baths. By the time you leave, you are in a total mind warp zone of relaxation and ready for pure pleasure.

The Breakers in Palm Beach is divine. I can’t tell you how many times I have enjoyed just walking down the beach holding hands, while star gazing, then having a nightcap at the bar. Close to Worth Ave and many wonderful restaurants.

The Boca is also another wonderful place (although I prefer the Breakers out of the two). Pool on premises, large human sized chess set, and you take a jetty over to the beach.

The Lowes South Beach is also a lot of fun, especially if you like to celebrity gawk. Great expansive pool, beach within steps of the pool, rooms have very clean lines, although it tends to be a little more crowded than the others, it does allow you to walk the strip and enjoy the sights. Tip though. If you want to walk the beach, wear sandals. Lots of large chunks of coral on the beach and some of it can be very sharp.

For LA;

One of my favorites is the Mondrian LA. Ultra chic, tre’ modern, and somewhat self-contained. The rooms are done in all white. The suites are somewhat small, but fun and funky. The pool there is wonderful. It’s actually the view from the pool that makes it so wonderful. Great place to do some laps first thing in the morning. And it’s the pool area that is what the night club becomes at night, which is very romantic with its separate sitting areas, the lights from the city twinkling, and the beds everywhere. One thing though, is parking, has to be done through the valet. There is absolutely no self-parking, it is a very densely populated area, so street parking is non-existent. But the area is definitely great to wonder around, sunset strip, take in the sights, and enjoy the weather. (Right down the street from my favorite hotel, The Chateau Marmont)

The Roosevelt Hotel. Very Mediterranean dark funky in the lounge area, where as in other areas of the hotel it is more modern. Rooms are tiny, tiny, tiny, even the suites. But it has a cool atmosphere to it, it’s rumored to be haunted, and Marilyn Monroe lived there at one point. Walking the Hollywood Blvd is right at your front door and the Hollywood sign is nearby. It personally was not a favorite, but it’s still cool to experience it at least once. LOL, for the turn down service, they leave little pill bottles that are full of white M&M’s, so you can “od” like all the other rockers.

The Beverly Hills Hotel. Decadent, yet inviting and comfortable. LOL, um, think Pretty Woman. Lush comfort, yet in the heart of everything. Shopping. Parks. LOL, very pink! But only the outside. Just thinking about it is making me very nostalgic. 1912, the bar, sit outside. The balmy air, mixed with watching the bodies sitting pool side, enjoying a cocktail is a very nice way to start the evening. It is also a very self-contained hotel, but also so centrally local to everything, that it’s hard not to want to go explore. A good place to go for dinner, while the food is good, it’s more of that overall very LA feel that you go for, is The Ivy. Very small, very quaint, very old school LA. If you like meatloaf, a your Mom’s style, order theirs. It’s very good, as is their Prime Rib, and their mashed potatoes. The Ivy Martini is also quite good. LOL, but don’t drink much there, the bathrooms are so small that it’s like using the restroom on the plane!

Ahhh, and now the castle on the hill. My favorite. The Chateau Marmont. The place where dreams are made and realized. The absolute must if discretion is of the utmost importance to you. There is a reason that this is where so many of Hollywood’s players have had their affairs at this hotel. One, it is so romantic. Staff is incredibly discreet, and, if you stay in one of the Bungalows’ not only are you staying in a hotel with every imaginable amenity available, but if you do get one of the Bungalows, not only do you have your own private entrance, but you also have your own attached private garage. Its walking distance to the touristry part of the strip, steps from Mondrian, lol, not that you will really want to leave.

For Vegas;

The Wynn, Palms, and Four Seasons.

For casinos on the strip, I prefer The Wynn. Its a more "grown up" crowd, the views from the rooms are amazing, and while it is still garish, for Vegas, it is more "elegant".

At the Palms. While the room itself is fun to say that you have stayed at it, the Heffner Skye Suite is simply not worth the money, on any level, BUT, it is still fun to say that you have stayed in Hugh's place. The carpet is industrial grade. The round bed (yes, the one that Pamela Anderson has slept in) clicks as it turns, and the bathroom, while you have a view of the Strip, has nothing special or magical about it. BUT you do have a really cool private pool, that overhangs the hotel, and has beautiful views of the strip at night. It has a glassed in elevator (like one really needs it in a 2 story room) and a small kitchen for snacks to be made, as well as a nice bar. Personally, it is not worth the money except to tell the tales of staying there. I still have a hard time believing that it is the crown jewel of George's hotel. The buffet at the Palms is outstanding for casino buffets, and the pool always has great action in season.

Have more hotels and resorts to add, will do so later.
 
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#36
...If it is a business trip, and you believe that because you will be in business meetings for half of the day and not with her, that this in some way indicates that you should haggle for a lower rate, don’t...
I always haggle. I am free to make an offer, just as the lady is free to decline, or make a counter offer.
 
#37
Cookyman, you’re welcome, it was my pleasure!

Puffin, you’re correct, there is nothing stating that you can’t haggle, well if you look over the area where the lady states no haggling ;) There are times and women (or the men in the industry) which will allow negotiations for rates. I know that when I was told about the lady who was offered less than what she would pay her sitter, it put her into a precarious situation, as she did not want to hurt the man’s feelings, but she also felt like he was basically looking to totally bargain basement with her.

Other hotels and resorts;

Arizona. The Boulders in Carefree. Simply amazing place. It’s called the Boulders, as it was built to look just like the Boulders of the native landscaping. It’s quite beautiful, serene, and very health orientated. When I flew in, I flew into the Phoenix airport. It was a little bit of a ride, but a beautiful one. This is not a hotel that allows for much exploration of much else unless you arrange for a driver or have a rented car with you, but it does have many things to do at the hotel.

Boston. One of my favorite cities. Rich in history, lots to do, but if you are a drinker, be aware that the bars close early compared to other large metropolitan areas. The Boston Harbor hotel is one of my favorites. The rooms are nicely appointed, not overly done, but well done. Easy walking distance to many area activities, as well as a trolley line that stops right in front. You can eat dinner out on the patio or upstairs in the restaurant, while watching the ships pass by in the harbor. I personally like the architecture of the hotel, as looking at it from the distance; it is built to look like a large luxury liner. If you haven’t brought a companion with you, the concierge at this particular hotel is quite knowledgeable. If you are looking for good cheap food, try Tia’s down the street. They always have specials on the lobsters, well in season, as they are closed for part of the year.

The Four Seasons Boston. Another favorite. I guess just saying “The Four Seasons” says it all. It’s close to the commons, which allows for pleasant strolls while holding hands and enjoying some of Boston’s wonderful seafood and sites. There is a jetty that will take you on a tour of the different little islands that dot the landscape, which can be fun to explore with a companion if you like history as well as nature.

Speaking of the Four Seasons If in Vegas, you don’t want to be in a casino hotel, but would like to be within distance of some of the casinos, the Four Seasons is very nice. They have the wonderful restaurant “Charlie Palmers” as they are also within walking or cab distance of “The Sterling Club”. It is a private club, but if you call in advance, they will send you an invitation to visit the club while you are there. It is the place where all the big players who live in Vegas enjoy quiet cocktails and dinner away from the tourist crowd. The marble work throughout the Sterling club is amazing. They also have reciprocal privileges for those that belong to their sister clubs.
 
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#39
Lookie here bitch, I taking you to da motel 6. That you vacation from having to work the corner, and car dates.

I travel quite often with gentlemen, and I personally prefer when we go to someplace tropical, although larger metro areas can also be fun.

For the travel, there are several things to take into consideration. The most important, is it a business trip that you are trying to have a little fun with, or pure vacation?

If it is a business trip that you are trying to add some fun too, you want to make reservations at a hotel that is either close to many area activities, or is more self-contained; pool, spa, beach, shops, etc. Trust me, you don’t want to come back to a room where a lady has been stuck in it with nothing to do.

A hint. I have never had this happen to me, but I do know of several ladies that it has happened to. If it is a business trip, and you believe that because you will be in business meetings for half of the day and not with her, that this in some way indicates that you should haggle for a lower rate, don’t.

With traveling, there are not half day rates available for a reason. When you take a lady out of her work area, she is not able to continue to earn her income. Yes, you may be taking her away, paying for airfare, the room and so forth, and even if you have a very good relationship, time together, this still is her business.

Yes, it’s a “vacation” but a vacation does not mean that her daily expenses at home have also taken a vacation. The majority of “working girls” do not have an IRA that they are investing in, or a company matched retirement program, a pension, medical benefits, paid sick time, or stock investment programs.

Everything they have for the future comes directly from what they earn, whether it is if they get sick or hurt for a month and have to pay all of their medical expenses, or if they have a sick child at home, that they have to take time off to care for them. Speaking of which, many ladies do have children at home, and for them to travel means that they also have to hire a nanny.

I knew one lady, who was offered a 3 day “vacation” and the person offered her 600 for the 3 days. Her normal fee was 250 an hour. She had children at home. For her to hire a babysitter for that hour, plus travel time, would have been nominal. For her to travel, it would in the end have cost her out of her own pocket to go on the vacation, as the nanny, for 24 hour periods would have been charging her over 250 for each day. (about 10 an hour) Babysitters still charge when the kids are sleeping. And if it’s not kids, it might be pets, or whatever, but the point is, while it may seem like a great idea, and a wonderful gift, the one thing to ultimately remember is that these women still have other lives.

People often question certain things, like why women charge so much for “what is fun”. The reality is, if you enjoy seeing a woman, at the drop of a hat, or even with a 24 hour notice, there is a reason she is able to do this. Basically part of the pay, is to help be a “beck and call” girl.

Now, the places. I personally travel quite often as a companion. My favorite places have always been coastal trips. I Florida, some of my own personal favorites are The Trump Sonesta in Miami. Outstanding personal service and very discreet. I travel there often with a regular, we are rather well known there together, and the staff knows I am not his wife.

When the wife calls, asking any questions, which she has, they alert us immediately. They have allowed him to keep two separate set of bills and have arranged some amazing times for us to enjoy together. Oh, and to die for in room massages. Ask the attendant to face the massage table towards the ocean. No better view while getting all the kinks taken out.

Another great one is the Naples Ritz. Very self-contained. You never have to leave if you don’t want to. If you do, I suggest dining at TruLucks. We normally fly into Miami, rent a convertible and make the drive across alligator alley, which can be fun. No in room massage, but the spa building is pure lux. Ice baths. Waterfalls. Steam baths. By the time you leave, you are in a total mind warp zone of relaxation and ready for pure pleasure.

The Breakers in Palm Beach is divine. I can’t tell you how many times I have enjoyed just walking down the beach holding hands, while star gazing, then having a nightcap at the bar. Close to Worth Ave and many wonderful restaurants.

The Boca is also another wonderful place (although I prefer the Breakers out of the two). Pool on premises, large human sized chess set, and you take a jetty over to the beach.

The Lowes South Beach is also a lot of fun, especially if you like to celebrity gawk. Great expansive pool, beach within steps of the pool, rooms have very clean lines, although it tends to be a little more crowded than the others, it does allow you to walk the strip and enjoy the sights. Tip though. If you want to walk the beach, wear sandals. Lots of large chunks of coral on the beach and some of it can be very sharp.

For LA;

One of my favorites is the Mondrian LA. Ultra chic, tre’ modern, and somewhat self-contained. The rooms are done in all white. The suites are somewhat small, but fun and funky. The pool there is wonderful. It’s actually the view from the pool that makes it so wonderful. Great place to do some laps first thing in the morning. And it’s the pool area that is what the night club becomes at night, which is very romantic with its separate sitting areas, the lights from the city twinkling, and the beds everywhere. One thing though, is parking, has to be done through the valet. There is absolutely no self-parking, it is a very densely populated area, so street parking is non-existent. But the area is definitely great to wonder around, sunset strip, take in the sights, and enjoy the weather. (Right down the street from my favorite hotel, The Chateau Marmont)

The Roosevelt Hotel. Very Mediterranean dark funky in the lounge area, where as in other areas of the hotel it is more modern. Rooms are tiny, tiny, tiny, even the suites. But it has a cool atmosphere to it, it’s rumored to be haunted, and Marilyn Monroe lived there at one point. Walking the Hollywood Blvd is right at your front door and the Hollywood sign is nearby. It personally was not a favorite, but it’s still cool to experience it at least once. LOL, for the turn down service, they leave little pill bottles that are full of white M&M’s, so you can “od” like all the other rockers.

The Beverly Hills Hotel. Decadent, yet inviting and comfortable. LOL, um, think Pretty Woman. Lush comfort, yet in the heart of everything. Shopping. Parks. LOL, very pink! But only the outside. Just thinking about it is making me very nostalgic. 1912, the bar, sit outside. The balmy air, mixed with watching the bodies sitting pool side, enjoying a cocktail is a very nice way to start the evening. It is also a very self-contained hotel, but also so centrally local to everything, that it’s hard not to want to go explore. A good place to go for dinner, while the food is good, it’s more of that overall very LA feel that you go for, is The Ivy. Very small, very quaint, very old school LA. If you like meatloaf, a your Mom’s style, order theirs. It’s very good, as is their Prime Rib, and their mashed potatoes. The Ivy Martini is also quite good. LOL, but don’t drink much there, the bathrooms are so small that it’s like using the restroom on the plane!

Ahhh, and now the castle on the hill. My favorite. The Chateau Marmont. The place where dreams are made and realized. The absolute must if discretion is of the utmost importance to you. There is a reason that this is where so many of Hollywood’s players have had their affairs at this hotel. One, it is so romantic. Staff is incredibly discreet, and, if you stay in one of the Bungalows’ not only are you staying in a hotel with every imaginable amenity available, but if you do get one of the Bungalows, not only do you have your own private entrance, but you also have your own attached private garage. Its walking distance to the touristry part of the strip, steps from Mondrian, lol, not that you will really want to leave.

For Vegas;

The Wynn, Palms, and Four Seasons.

For casinos on the strip, I prefer The Wynn. Its a more "grown up" crowd, the views from the rooms are amazing, and while it is still garish, for Vegas, it is more "elegant".

At the Palms. While the room itself is fun to say that you have stayed at it, the Heffner Skye Suite is simply not worth the money, on any level, BUT, it is still fun to say that you have stayed in Hugh's place. The carpet is industrial grade. The round bed (yes, the one that Pamela Anderson has slept in) clicks as it turns, and the bathroom, while you have a view of the Strip, has nothing special or magical about it. BUT you do have a really cool private pool, that overhangs the hotel, and has beautiful views of the strip at night. It has a glassed in elevator (like one really needs it in a 2 story room) and a small kitchen for snacks to be made, as well as a nice bar. Personally, it is not worth the money except to tell the tales of staying there. I still have a hard time believing that it is the crown jewel of George's hotel. The buffet at the Palms is outstanding for casino buffets, and the pool always has great action in season.

Have more hotels and resorts to add, will do so later.
 
#40
Avoid the Lowes miami hotel. bullshit overpriced roachtrap with paper thin walls. I was there about 7 years ago, and while waiting for the elevator for eternity had to hear some whiny old yenta squealing like a pig while being fucked. at 8am. it was probably this ho hotel reviwer


Lookie here bitch, I taking you to da motel 6. That you vacation from having to work the corner, and car dates.
 
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