Toronto or Montreal?

#1
I'm taking a trip to Toronto or Montreal. With respect to hobbying, do they have about the same to offer or is one better than the other? I'm particular interested in the selection, quality and price of outcall. My own sense is that Montreal is best, but don't have enough evidence. Help would be much appreciated.
 
#3
Montreal

Don't know about Toronto, but Montreal is a good place to visit. Went there for a weekend for a bachelor party last year and had a good time. We got two girls from an agency from the phone book. They performed a girl on girl show and later provided extra services for the bachelor as well as the attendees.

The strip clubs on St. Katherine street that offer "contact" lap dances(roaming is allowed) were good also. The dances go for $10 Canadian about $7.50 US depending on the rate of exchange.
 
#4
There is a reason Montreal is known as the "Mecca" for hobbyists. Don't know any info firsthand about Toronto, but providers there "seem" to have reputations for being higher priced and more "americanized" (read "jaded") than their Montreal "sisters".

Last August I stayed at the Hotel Europa (Best Western). Nice clean modern room with a queen bed for $90 (CDN), about $60USD. It's right in the
downtown area, near Thursday's (Club in Hotel de la Montagne and other places to eat and such. If you're a real good-lokin' guy and want to try for some FREE local tail (and there are some VERY good looking ladies around, the club at Thursday's,
on almost any night of the week except Monday) is a fertile ground for the ladies. Comfort Suites on the next block isn't quite as nice a hotel but the rooms are as nice or better (read bigger). Rates are nearly the same but a bit higher than Europa. But that stuff is ALL subject to change.

If you have a car and are travelling, Grand Prix is notorious for providing full service in the club. I've heard in the past that Grand Prix is becoming almost as high priced as calling an outcall service in Montreal with the girls bargaining for all the extras. Who the fuck needs that ? I mean, if it's going to cost you $100Cdn and up for a "somewhat" private small enclosed area in a part of a strip club that only takes between 15 and 30 minutes or so, why wouldn't you just get an escort sent to your room for an hour for $150 Cdn ? Now, granted, you get to view the merchandise and take your pick, etc, but ????? So, by the time you get F/S, you've basically spent, for one pop, about 15-30 minutes, in an, at best, semi-private place, about the same amount as you would have spent having a lady come to your hotel room for an HOUR and getting multiple pops. So, all-in-all, not worth it, IMO.

Also, if you're going to do the strip club stuff, I hear there are a couple of others, somewhere around Grand Prix that give you more for less. Unfortunately I don't remember the clubs names. I think one was "Gentlemen's" something or Le Club
Gentlemen or something along those lines.

Strip club action in Montreal I believe has gotten better since the beginning of the year. I believe an old ordinance against contact with patrons was lifted and full contact laps are now allowed again, but again, that may be a YMMV situation. Can the ladies be lured back to your hotel room ? Yes, definitely more so than that type of success in the US. Having said that though, this type of success is probably still relatively hard work and again, calling an escort is really easy. But for
some the thrill is in the hunt, no ?

I've been to Wanda's. Upscale type ladies. Dances were pretty good. Been to Teazer's, similar. Now, I was at both these places before 01/01/01. I understand that the dances within Montreal proper are NOW allowed to be FULL contact where before they were not. I haven't sampled the dances since then though.

OTOH, when I did go to a few strip clubs, the girls are of a higher quality (lookswise) than most of the escorts. Just my opinion and of course, there were exceptions.

OTOH, if you treasure viewing the merchandise first, and/or the thrill of the hunt (and maybe she'll come back to your room. The economy's not so great right now anywhere, is it ?), go for it.

Try www.canbest.com for reviews of all sorts, escorts, strip clubs, etc.

Nikita of Private-Lies (514)912-4897 is incall but I think only available 1 day a week (weds ?) She is "Amer-asian", tall, 5'7" or so, gorgeous, great tits, BBBJNQBS, DFK, DATY and I think Greek MAY be available. I know she'll accept some stimulation of that area, but I never asked about Greek. Also multiple pops in the hour. Very nice girl. PL is, I think, $150Cdn and VERY reputable.

French agencies are reputed to have the least "restrictive" ladies. Sweet dreams is generally one and done but I think I've heard of some ladies that will stay the full hour and give multiple pops. If not, offer them another $50Cdn and I'm SURE you'll get the second pop. That almost doubles HER income for the hour.

All prices in Canadian dollars (About 65 US cents for a Canadian dollar), e.g. $150/Cdn = about $105 or so USD. P-L is a VERY reputable INCALL.

Les Filles Mr Jacques is $130/hr. (514) 983-5992 Girls are reputed to not be the prettiest but the services are supposed to be very liberal. Apparently you can be very explicit (albeit tactful) with the phone person about the ladies description and their individual services.

I haven't seen any of these girls but here is a run-down from what I believe to be reliable sources (other hobbiest friends).

JOSIE - 27 YR, 5'4, 125 LB, 34B-25-34, DARK BLONDE SERVICE: 10 (DFK, GREEK, BBBJTC NO SWALLOW)
This is the blonde Josie, not the brunette.

MELISSA-TALL, OFFERS GREEK FOR "EXTRA TIP" ($60)
BBBJTC OR FACIAL, EARLY 30'S - Highly recommended

JULIE (SS) 20 5"4' 105 34C-24-35 BLONDE, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, GREEK +$

Please note I haven't seen any of these Mr Jacques girls myself but I've heard about them from other guys in the hobby.

Also, from "Betterhalf" (514) 572-1690 $150/hr

ALEXANDRA, 5'6", 127, 36CC-25-36, BBBJTC, GFE/DFK, BRAZILIAN

RACHELLE - 30, 5'4", 125, BLONDE 36C-25-35, also GFE/DFK, BBBJTC

These 2 ladies services were confirmed by the owner, Alexandra. They are independently confirmed to be what they say.

http://www.geocities.com/kisslouann/kisslouann.html

You might want to give them a call. Don't know prices or anything (and I made a post about that) but they look fabulous. I've since heard they were all pretty "safe", so it doesn't sound like their services are that liberal, but they are beautiful.

One other Montreal recommendation.
www.montrealsweetheart.com

Very cute, reportedly VERY enthusiastic provider and more liberal than usual (believe BBBJTC). If you like them petite, cute and very "into it", she's supposed to be the real deal.

Enjoy. You're welcome....... (grin)

littleguy, wishing he were in Montreal for a vacation right now.
 
#6
I spent time in both towns last year. I'd agree with Littleguy: Montreal is far superior, although Toronto too offers more for your money than NYC. Also BBBJ seems to be more available in Montreal than Toronto.

Basically, a 21 yr old hottie that you'd see for $600-$400 (USD) in NYC will cost you $200 (USD) in Toronto and $150 (USD) in Montreal. Jasmine Hope is good. But if you've taken the trouble to get all the way to Montreal, its hard to justify paying that price when you can find a hot looking 19 yr old from an agency who will cost you much less.

I've had good results using Canbest and TERB (http://www.terb.ca ) to help guide me on specific providers.

M. Jacques agency and Asservissante (www.asservissante) are pretty reliable on descriptions of girls. Asservissanteis outcall, but its similar to the Red Room here in NYC: has some hotties, but more variable on the type of service that you'll get.

As for strip clubs, there are good ones in montreal, but its hard to see why you'd pay more money for that when outcall agencies cost less and are legal.
 
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#7
How's the border situation?

With border security tightening up, do you have to wait in line for hours to cross the border? Before it was just like a toll booth, but I haven't been to Canada for a while. I just hate the waiting.
 
#8
Thanks!

Skagen and Littleguy, thanks! Enormously useful information. I'm going to Montreal for five days next week, most of the time devoted to hobbying. Will give full report back.
 
#9
sammy,

I went back and forth on a bus trip about 3 weeks ago and the border seemed pretty much back to normal. NOT like a toll booth exactly, but No BIG waits.

Mr XYZ,

I have more info on Montreal ladies but didn't have the time to post it all.

Keep in mind that, like everywhere else, talent moves around, leaves and comes back. Also, fresh talent appears daily.

Canbest has gone downhill quite a bit in both quantity and quality of reviews, just like JAG, but you may be able to find some useful info there.

I personally have not seen any ladies since early this year. I was attempting to put together a trip in late summer and it never came about. Much of the info above is from either contact with the lady herself and independent confirmation from one of more fellow hobbiests who I know (from their postings in the past and private e-mails) and trust. So, other that Nikita, who I saw earlier this year, the other info is NOT first-hand, just from guys that have shown themselves to be trustworthy in the past. AS always, YMMV.

Best of luck My XYZ. Let us know how you make out.

HP,

Anytime my man. If you want to make a long weekend trip to Montreal sometime, let me know.

Cheap bastard that I am, I always do whatever legwork/research I can. I sometimes take one for the team when I can but most of the ladies I see come from reviews/info and opinions of my fellow hobbiests.


littleguy......... getting his passport ready again
 
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#10
I have to agree MTL is the better hobby destination. TO also has a huge selection but is on average a little more pricey. Another thing MTL has is a great downtown nightlife. All sorts of clubs to visit, and the agencies focus on downtown so you don't usually have to wait long when you call. Good info from the other guys here. I agree with LGs comments on agencies vs places like Grand Prix. Go with the agencies. LG I was wondering why we didn't hear about your summer trip, now I know why.

I was down early summer and had a great time. Wanda's is a cool club to relax. More private laps can be had at a small downstairs club on Ste. Catherine called Candies. Downtown clubs didn't allow hands on when I was there but otherwise were fun and only $10CAN. Some reputable agencies below. French agencies probably a better bet for higher mileage but as always YMMV. Depends what you want too.

Fantasme 514-944-9545. Melissa BBBJ, great DD for russian.
Les Filles de M. Jacques 514-983-5992. Carolyn 30 yo blonde GFE DFK BBBJ multiple cups.
Agence Millenia 514-487-7728 http://www.escorts-montreal.com Julie petite brunette high mileage champion.
Exxxclusive http://www.montreal-escorts.com/
Asservisante http://asservissante.com/ tends to have very good looking girls but lower mileage.

Too bad Chester's site is down but pick up a copy of the Mirror and/or Le Journal de Montreal and you will find tons of listings. I will also be in MTL for 2-3 days end of month (YEAH !!). Hopefully I will finally get to see Christine at Millenia. I will share my reviews..... if you do.....
 
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