"Like there's a way to guarantee honest info? I'd be willing to pay for that."
of course there's no gaurentee of anything... but the management should at least be honest about their agenda's if i'm paying them.
hombre... you seem unwilling to discuss this with someone who appears to have a bug (which is a cop out if you ask me), yet i'm trying to discuss it with someone who's in total denial. i'm only asking the questions because they need to be asked. there's plenty of people here who have no bug who would like to know, and who deserve to know the truth before they shell out $120.
at least i came here and tried to make some dialog. for someone who gets accused of going off on tangent's all the time, i came here and i think i was pretty reasonable with you in this thread, i told you i was willing to pass an olive branch if you would be willing to discuss a few issues that i and others had........ for my willingness to even go that far and do it without any rants.....it got me no where.
you know... it's not even about jag management anymore... it's about the people who are there now like you and littleguy and all the rest who want to tell me to basically stick my head in the sand or look the other way about what jag management is doing. it's thinking like that, that makes me miss jag even less. because that seems to be what jag is all about now...... a bunch of guys who are in denial and prefer to say nothing about it, and seem very content with that. well you're in there for free as well as a bunch of others who have the nerve to come here and attempt to convince people to pay $120 a year join or return and be lied to in exchange, so it's no big deal to you. maybe you should try shelling out the $120 a year and perhaps you'll start thinking differently. not only did you push me even further away from ever returning to jag but you probably just convinced a whole bunch of membership hopefuls not to waste their money as well. too bad cause if you would have been willing to even discuss this stuff and had convinced me and gotten me interested in returning, i'd bet you would have gotten a shit load of UG'ers to join jag...... you may think that no one listens to Oz because of all my rants and fights that i've had in the past, but people seem to ignore all of that bull shit when it comes to parting with their hard earned cash..... because i've learned recently that in the end, it's my honesty that really infuences people. and if you don't believe me, just ask patricia, brenda (BPC) and any other girl i've truthfully discussed here and what guys tell them was their final decision in seeing them.
maybe it's time Ari steps up to the plate to explain away jags issues, since he seems to be the only open minded person who's there. but after seeing his take on that anti semite thread (of which he claims not to have seen it) i'm afraid he's fallin head first into that same patch of sand. it's too bad that he's stuck in there alone now because that mind of his, is a terrible thing to waste on a bunch of people who choose to close theirs so willingly.
PS.... what's really funny is that here we are discussing returning to jag and trying to get people to join jag when jag isn't even there anymore.... mr Pitiful, mack, slinkybender, JC/TJ, justme, rufus, Hot4chicks, fletch, mrny and practically everyone else who made jag what it was aren't even there anymore, throw in thorn(who's till on jag), wsb (if he ever returns) as well as straightshooter, Social Register a few others who are here under different names now.... and they're all here on UG. so whats missing? a few thousand reviews that are upwards of 5 years old. we all know that any review over 6 months to a year is pretty much completely worthless since contact info changes and girls move to different houses or agencies or retire completely.