Rev of Ms. XXX or 24 hours in the Twilight Zone?

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#81
EW,

I'm afaid that's a bet that I can not take, but not for the reason you might think. I tend to find one or two providers who I really like and then become almost exclusive regulars of them. Outside of J I've only seen two other providers who I've seen over the past two years. I'm sure you know that when a provider "retires" it doesn't necessarily mean that she isn't seeing anybody, but only seeing a very select group. That's how it is with these two providers.

Again I'm sure that you are aware that the lifespan of a provider in the business is not very long, so you have to scout out potental future prospects. That was what I was doing with J. I wanted to see if it was possible to nurture a business relationship with her and if there was only chemistry between us. Obviously there wasn't. While I may not see many different providers I'm always on the lookout for that special, unique provider. Someone who I can cultivate a long lasting relationship with.

I think I know SB well enough that if I had a truthful negitive review on someone new I have seen he would not have a problem with me posting my experience here on UG.
 
#84
I know that I don't know slinkybender at all and I think that I can be pretty sure that if I said something like, "XX doesn't look anything like her pictures there would be hell to pay". It would be the truth.

Please tell Phantom, why J? She seemed like an easy mark? Quite slippery and in the end she played you just like JC got it from Becka.

But that's okay that's the game we play. Most bang for the buck.
 
#85
Why J? Maybe because of her age, her location in NYC it only took me 20 mintues to get to her place from whee I live in NJ. And because I was told and read that she did the things that I liked.

And NOT because I thought she was an easy mark.
 
#86
Try lexxi on TBD (shivers). Never used her services but I've seen her pic.

She's somewhere down the NJ shore. 2K for a weekend. I believe she does what you require.

I have a theory on J's level of service it isn't in direct proportion to the drink she partakes in but in her internet profile. She certainly knows that people have posted everything the know about her. Who wouldn't be resentful?
 
#87
ew...

she doesn't know that much. she knows little of what was really written on jag and i'm pretty sure she has no clue as to whats on UG about her, or silnky or UG would have heard from her. she's not type to let this slide when she could easily respond. she doesn't pay any attention to the boards and it's been questioned as to whether she even still owns a computer.
 
#88
Actually she knows a lot of it from both JAG and UG.

I said something like, "you raise quite a fuss whenever your name comes up."

And she went on to say how hurtful it is that people post stuff on boards that they have no business posting. She said that she would/could respond but that she's not that type of person to get wound up into negativity.

So, I think you are right that she doesn't pay attention to the boards, but she hears about all of it. But she chooses to ignore it. People do insist on telling her though.
 
#89
Am I the only one here who pays for sex because I just want uncommitted, non controlling non relationship uncomplicated sex when I want sex. There are others in my life for intimacy, conversation, friendship etc. I've met some fine woman who no doubt if we wanted to go that route I can have some sort of friendship or intimacy with or whatever. But I pay for a service they provide. When I need my teeth cleaned I go to a dentist, when I need my cock cleaned I go to a provider. There is not a whole lot of complication here as far as I am concerned.
 

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#90
You are not the only one, but sometimes I think we are in the extreme minority. Of course, that's not to say we are any better. Everyone is entitled to seek what they want.
 
#92
EW...

i don't think she knows EXACTLY whats been written....


i had told her a long time ago that a lot of the hurtful stuff on JAG was deleted (i lied). anyone who insist on telling her that it's stil there and it's exact contents is a fucking idiot.
 
#93
Originally posted by ew
You got hosed.
She wasn't tired enough to watch TV.

She knew what she did and she was okay with it. The girl deserves anything she gets on this board. It's easy enough to figure out, just look for the thread.

She belongs in the TBD equivalent of a bad-provider database. If she got me for an hour or two, no problemo that's what review boards are for. I am not a vindictive person but I would clearly state my displeasure whenever her name comes up forevermore. Afterall, it's the truth.

Bad chemistry? She can FU just fine for an hour but can't when given 24 hours? Give me a break. This is her living. I assume that she would like to think of herself as a professional and, as a professional, you have nothing but your reputation.
EW, above are your posted thoughts before you knew the provides name. Now after learning it was Janelle, your thoughts seemed to have changed and you seem to be defending J and what she did.

Care to explain this change of position?
 
#96
Notes for JC, Phantom and of course SB

JC: I understand your condition, but finally feel compelled to tell you that not everyone here shares it with you.

I find it particularly distasteful that given your constant self-flagellation that you continue to pontificate on the nature of hobbyists and providers in such a way as to virtually declare us all amoral, insensate, emotionally crippled creatures. Perhaps these apply to you, but certainly not to me and probably not to many if not most of us here.

Perhaps a hiatus from the board AND the hobby is in order. I don't for one second believe that you think your posts are helping anyone else. They are simply self-serving, back-handed insults laced into a pseudo-lecture on your perceived sadly romantic plight.

What I mean to say here is that if you really believe ANY of what you say, you shouldn't be here. I'm not telling you what to do, just making an observation.

Phantom: Shame on you.

My first post in this thread ended with the statement that there is probably more to this story. When you asked for "unbiased" comments, what you really wanted was "uninformed" comments. Your story should have included comments to the effect that "Sara was known to be unreliable, unbalanced and likely suffering from several psychological disturbances." How different would our comments have been had you included that one sentence!

SB: SK too: I love the hobby. I have made some genuine friends among providers, but have never become involved romantically. Unlike some of our group, I do not view my adventures as romantic. Sex is not Romance! Nor is sex the primary symbol of intimacy.

Intimate discourse, acts of altruism, genuine care and concern shown through self-sacrifice, these are the greatest acts of intimacy. These have very little, if anything to do with the hobby.
 
#97
Originally posted by Phantom

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EW, above are your posted thoughts before you knew the provides name. Now after learning it was Janelle, your thoughts seemed to have changed and you seem to be defending J and what she did.

Care to explain this change of position? [/B]
I can't speak for ew, but I have some suspicions. Someone posted in another thread somewhere here that anyone who saw Janelle at this point was doing so on the basis of bad reviews or ignorance (not having seen the relatively recent bad reviews). Since ignorance is not the case here, ew could be asking what in hell was expected? Did someone think he was a knight in shining armor to solve this girl's problems? Did the princess want to be rescued (It doesn't sound like it).

Review: J's performance was unanimated and detached.
Complaint: I read the reviews, saw J, and I was robbed: she took my money and was unanimated and detached.


[Edited by beep9 on 07-25-2001 at 09:57 AM]
 
#98
HumbleN - I wasn't attacking or even per se commenting on yours or anyone else's motivation or reason for "hobbying". I was simply expounding on mine. I said I've met some very nice women who in a different setting, life or time I could become friendly with (or more - who knows). But for me it is simply about sex, plain and simple (well, hopefully not too plain or too simple). No romance, no friendship, no control, no romance, no illusion of romance. If you or anyone or everyone else gets what they want out of your involvement, more power to you.
 
#99
HN,

So now I'm to blame for everything that happened?

What did I expect when I booked J. I expected what I have gotten from numerous other escorts who I've booked for extended dates. Several hours of sexually activity, nothing more. I expected a basic level of service from a girl who makes her living doing sexually acts for guys in exchange for money. I believe YMMV only comes into play for services above and beyond a basic level of service. YMMV had nothing to do with what happened or did not happen.

It really makes me wonder what agenda you guys have who criticized "Sara", but who are now defending J.
 
Permit me to clarify...

Originally posted by SkellyChamp
HumbleN - I wasn't attacking or even per se commenting on yours or anyone else's motivation or reason for "hobbying". I was simply expounding on mine. I said I've met some very nice women who in a different setting, life or time I could become friendly with (or more - who knows). But for me it is simply about sex, plain and simple (well, hopefully not too plain or too simple). No romance, no friendship, no control, no romance, no illusion of romance. If you or anyone or everyone else gets what they want out of your involvement, more power to you.
We're on the same page.

I included you with SB because it seemed that the three of us were in the minority together. I didn't mean to give the impression that you were in the "other" group. Sorry if I did.
 
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