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Are you including your cash and T direct bonds in your calculation ? If no then it's not apples to apples with Trader. He may have even outperformed you on a risk adjusted basis .
T Direct bonds are a very small part of my investments, less than 0.1 % so not a factor. And yes I included cash.
 

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Please define your interpretation of risk adjusted basis?

If S&P returned 28%, and I was at 60% equities, then anything beyond 16.8% would be outperforming-?
Assuming bonds returned 1-2%, then would I have underperformed?
Can you give me more color on your stock holdings?
 
Can you give me more color on your stock holdings?
I will when I get a chance. I have to color it a bit so I don't iD myself to the world. I have non-mongers I used to work with and we know about our investments we made them at same time and discussed in detail.

The way I figures my gain is I went to mybrokerage account where all my investments are and looked at total value on Jan 1 2021 and final value on Dec 31, 2021 and figure % gain. So it includes cap gain, interest, dividends and cash. Does not include T Savings and working cash in savings and checking. Not chump change but I don't considerate part of my investments — only my brokerage accounts.

Thinking about it I retract influence of T Savings as I didn't account for RMD money that came out and went to FED & S taxes in mid Dec and that was > T Savings.. No new money went in.
 

pokler

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I will when I get a chance. I have to color it a bit so I don't iD myself to the world. I have non-mongers I used to work with and we know about our investments we made them at same time and discussed in detail.

The way I figures my gain is I went to mybrokerage account where all my investments are and looked at total value on Jan 1 2021 and final value on Dec 31, 2021 and figure % gain. So it includes cap gain, interest, dividends and cash. Does not include T Savings and working cash in savings and checking. Not chump change but I don't considerate part of my investments — only my brokerage accounts.

Thinking about it I retract influence of T Savings as I didn't account for RMD money that came out and went to FED & S taxes in mid Dec and that was > T Savings.. No new money went in.
Sorry i intended that for Trader lol
 

pokler

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Largest equity holdings
HD
BX
AAPL
ABBV
CSCO
AVGO
UNP
Each position represents no more then
3-4% of total portfolio
Of which
greatest concentration
24% IT
13 % each heath care, consumer staples, consumer discretionary
A 60/40 mix of Russell 3000 and Barclays bond agg did 14.09% in 2021. So a portfolio taking this same risk should return the same in order to be compensated for its risk. While your portfolio looks diverse it's not as diverse as the R3000 on the stock side and I'm sure on the bond side as well. As such you should do better than 14%. Your 16% return seems like a fair risk adjusted return which is a conclusion I make based on this limited info.
 
A 60/40 mix of Russell 3000 and Barclays bond agg did 14.09% in 2021. So a portfolio taking this same risk should return the same in order to be compensated for its risk. While your portfolio looks diverse it's not as diverse as the R3000 on the stock side and I'm sure on the bond side as well. As such you should do better than 14%. Your 16% return seems like a fair risk adjusted return which is a conclusion I make based on this limited info.
Ty for that!!
 
Here is how I look at a lot of money left on the table:
I always had term life insurance to protect my family. Once they no longer needed protection (college done, house paid for, etc) I stopped.
Was that a bad idea? I didn't die so was it foolish to leave all that money "on the table" that I could have put to investing?
Similarly with fire insurance etc.

Yes, your conservative views limited upside gains but you theoretically benefited by limited downside loses — consider it like the cost of insurance.

BTW, Isaving bonds purchased directly from the treasury ( treasurydirect.gov ) are now paying 7.12%. Alas you can only invest $10K per person per year. Note that they are adjusted every 6mo by inflation. As close to zero risk as you can get.
If I am correct, the I bonds you are referring to are recalculated every month based on a combination of fed interest rates and fed estimated inflation. So while they may look very appealing today with basically no points that can change each month and will likely change very soon if the Fed does what they say they will do with interest rates. But for $10k it's a good option for most. And i agree always buy directly from the Fed site.
 
About 80% of the positions are covered and 20% naked. Only going out to 2/11 or 2/18 nothing too long.
I've never done calls/puts.
Could you kindly outline your thinking (numbers would be nice such as cost of calls, etc.) on why you did what you did and what can happen i.e. the cases if utilities go up, down or stay the same.
Thanks.
 
I've never done calls/puts.
Could you kindly outline your thinking (numbers would be nice such as cost of calls, etc.) on why you did what you did and what can happen i.e. the cases if utilities go up, down or stay the same.
Thanks.
Well kind of difficult to explain in a post. I trade options regularly usually buying to open to augment a position I am long on or to hedge a position before earnings.
I also write calls and outs to generate additional cash flow. Utilities are always an early indicator of interest rate direction and so I am very comfortable writing calls against my positions with the goal of collecting about 1% in premium for a less than 30 days of decay and a strike price roughly 3% greater than my current price. My expectation is to keep the additional 1% premium for myself and not come near the strike price during that 30 days. Sure if I am confident my holdings are under pressure, I could sell them, incur the taxes on the sale, and miss dividends while waiting to buy back in at a lower price, but here I avoid the taxes, keep the dividends, and cushion the downturn.
if naked, it’s the same goal but I don’t own the underlying position so if I was in the money on the date of expiration I’d have to buy shares to surrender. If out of the money I’d just keep the premium.
if it’s a position that I am approaching a price where I can average down my purchase price I will start writing puts for a lower strike price than what is currently trading, collect the premium, and be pleased even if I am in the money on expiration because it’s a stock I don’t mind owning more of. If I am out of the money, great so I kept the premium.
on some more aggressive investments I will sometimes buy both the call and the put for the same strike before big news comes out and the exponential gains from a dramatic move in either direction will profit enough to cover the cost of both positions and still leave me a healthy profit.
options are a wonderful way to fine tune a portfolio but not all equities have a robust options market and it can be a bit of work to keep an eye on all of your positions.
during dramatic downturns like what we experienced 2 years ago I will go heavy on LEAPS which are long term options to maximize exposure to quality companies that I expect will bounce back within the next 18 months. I minimize my exposure to losses and maximize my exposure to gains.
there is more to it but that is a basic framework of what I like to do.
 
Well kind of difficult to explain in a post. I trade options regularly usually buying to open to augment a position I am long on or to hedge a position before earnings.
I also write calls and outs to generate additional cash flow. Utilities are always an early indicator of interest rate direction and so I am very comfortable writing calls against my positions with the goal of collecting about 1% in premium for a less than 30 days of decay and a strike price roughly 3% greater than my current price. My expectation is to keep the additional 1% premium for myself and not come near the strike price during that 30 days. Sure if I am confident my holdings are under pressure, I could sell them, incur the taxes on the sale, and miss dividends while waiting to buy back in at a lower price, but here I avoid the taxes, keep the dividends, and cushion the downturn.
if naked, it’s the same goal but I don’t own the underlying position so if I was in the money on the date of expiration I’d have to buy shares to surrender. If out of the money I’d just keep the premium.
if it’s a position that I am approaching a price where I can average down my purchase price I will start writing puts for a lower strike price than what is currently trading, collect the premium, and be pleased even if I am in the money on expiration because it’s a stock I don’t mind owning more of. If I am out of the money, great so I kept the premium.
on some more aggressive investments I will sometimes buy both the call and the put for the same strike before big news comes out and the exponential gains from a dramatic move in either direction will profit enough to cover the cost of both positions and still leave me a healthy profit.
options are a wonderful way to fine tune a portfolio but not all equities have a robust options market and it can be a bit of work to keep an eye on all of your positions.
during dramatic downturns like what we experienced 2 years ago I will go heavy on LEAPS which are long term options to maximize exposure to quality companies that I expect will bounce back within the next 18 months. I minimize my exposure to losses and maximize my exposure to gains.
there is more to it but that is a basic framework of what I like to do.
Wow this is quite involved. So many ways to play the market
 
My feeling towards my FA-
I told you so!!

A month or two ago, I expressed my growing concerning that the markets were extremely overbought, accompanied with warning signs that a correction was imminent.. I asked her to reduce my equity exposure from appx 63% to 40%.. Was adamant that it is impossible to time the markets and reluctantly started to trim…We reduced by 5% in total.. A conversation was had and I was guilted into stopping the trim.

Hindsight says I should have gone with my gut- I am furious that I did not listen to myself, however I accept that I am not looking at 10 year horizon as well as thinking I had similar feelings last year at this time before the markets ran up..

For the pros out there…And it is a difficult question to ask.. Do I fire my FA and move on… I’ve been with the firm for 10 years and extremely satisfied with 1/1 service, keeping me disciplined, but feel performance has been just satisfactory
 
My feeling towards my FA-
I told you so!!

A month or two ago, I expressed my growing concerning that the markets were extremely overbought, accompanied with warning signs that a correction was imminent.. I asked her to reduce my equity exposure from appx 63% to 40%.. Was adamant that it is impossible to time the markets and reluctantly started to trim…We reduced by 5% in total.. A conversation was had and I was guilted into stopping the trim.

Hindsight says I should have gone with my gut- I am furious that I did not listen to myself, however I accept that I am not looking at 10 year horizon as well as thinking I had similar feelings last year at this time before the markets ran up..

For the pros out there…And it is a difficult question to ask.. Do I fire my FA and move on… I’ve been with the firm for 10 years and extremely satisfied with 1/1 service, keeping me disciplined, but feel performance has been just satisfactory
My answer to your question is at the end of this post.

The thing about hindsight is that it the only prediction method that is 100% accurate. It is also useless.

IMHO (and my over 50 years as an investor — not a gambler — I've never bought a lottery ticket, sports bet, etc., other than the office Superbowl pools that involve zero prediction skills and are just for fun).

My tax guy last year asked me how much I have in equities a couple of years ago when he saw how much taxes I was paying in capital gain distributions and said "You should look to harvesting some of your loses this year to offset the gains"
To which I replied "I have no losses to harvest"

Back in the 70's I read this book by Burton Malkiel A Random Walk Down Wall Street. He is the guy who claimed that most investors would beat the "experts" by putting the stock pages of the WSJ on a wall and have a monkey throw 10 darts at it and buy those socks and hold them for the long term.

He presented the data to prove his point.

Jack Bogle agreed with him professionally and formed the 1st one in 1975 which was called as Bogle's Folly by the "experts". When he opened it the S&P was 90. It is now (even after the past couple weeks of losses) 4281. The $5K I put into it then is now worth (back of the envelope calculation) over 500K (with reinvested dividends). From that 1 small investment. I didn't figure in taxes paid on cap gain distributions (happens primarily whenever a company was removed from S&P 500 and replaced by another). The small fees charged aren't worth discussing.

So should you fire your FA?

If you think that your FA didn't advise you of the proper risk vs benefit at this stage in your life — then yes. Otherwise no.

Ps I last year I purchased the latest update book. They may have it in your public library or it's in paperback so not very expensive.
 

pokler

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My feeling towards my FA-
I told you so!!

A month or two ago, I expressed my growing concerning that the markets were extremely overbought, accompanied with warning signs that a correction was imminent.. I asked her to reduce my equity exposure from appx 63% to 40%.. Was adamant that it is impossible to time the markets and reluctantly started to trim…We reduced by 5% in total.. A conversation was had and I was guilted into stopping the trim.

Hindsight says I should have gone with my gut- I am furious that I did not listen to myself, however I accept that I am not looking at 10 year horizon as well as thinking I had similar feelings last year at this time before the markets ran up..

For the pros out there…And it is a difficult question to ask.. Do I fire my FA and move on… I’ve been with the firm for 10 years and extremely satisfied with 1/1 service, keeping me disciplined, but feel performance has been just satisfactory
Were you complaining about all the money her bullish tilt made you in 2019, 2020 and 2021?
 

pokler

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My answer to your question is at the end of this post.

The thing about hindsight is that it the only prediction method that is 100% accurate. It is also useless.

IMHO (and my over 50 years as an investor — not a gambler — I've never bought a lottery ticket, sports bet, etc., other than the office Superbowl pools that involve zero prediction skills and are just for fun).

My tax guy last year asked me how much I have in equities a couple of years ago when he saw how much taxes I was paying in capital gain distributions and said "You should look to harvesting some of your loses this year to offset the gains"
To which I replied "I have no losses to harvest"

Back in the 70's I read this book by Burton Malkiel A Random Walk Down Wall Street. He is the guy who claimed that most investors would beat the "experts" by putting the stock pages of the WSJ on a wall and have a monkey throw 10 darts at it and buy those socks and hold them for the long term.

He presented the data to prove his point.

Jack Bogle agreed with him professionally and formed the 1st one in 1975 which was called as Bogle's Folly by the "experts". When he opened it the S&P was 90. It is now (even after the past couple weeks of losses) 4281. The $5K I put into it then is now worth (back of the envelope calculation) over 500K (with reinvested dividends). From that 1 small investment. I didn't figure in taxes paid on cap gain distributions (happens primarily whenever a company was removed from S&P 500 and replaced by another). The small fees charged aren't worth discussing.

So should you fire your FA?

If you think that your FA didn't advise you of the proper risk vs benefit at this stage in your life — then yes. Otherwise no.

Ps I last year I purchased the latest update book. They may have it in your public library or it's in paperback so not very expensive.
We had this discussion last year. Asset allocation is the most important determinant of returns. I'll the book doesn't dwell on that as it should .
 
Were you complaining about all the money her bullish tilt made you in 2019, 2020 and 2021?
She made him money in 2019, 2020, 2021 you say?
Are you maybe confusing skill in equity investment picking or with just being there in equities ( literally just about any equities) in a bull market?
 
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