Old men pushing 60 with prostate problems
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Yep
Pissed blood for couple days
Cumming blood for about 6 weeks
I chose not to imbibe for that time-
after I could not take it any longer I went to an AMP. ( forgot which one) which offered FS with cover- Ensured lights were low and after the deed I did remove condom by myself - I think I actually put it in my pocket for fear of AMP reaction to blood —
A good release less a wasted pair of pants which I threw away
The blood cleared up shortly thereafter-
Not a pleasant couple of months
Pissed blood for couple days
Cumming blood for about 6 weeks
I chose not to imbibe for that time-
after I could not take it any longer I went to an AMP. ( forgot which one) which offered FS with cover- Ensured lights were low and after the deed I did remove condom by myself - I think I actually put it in my pocket for fear of AMP reaction to blood —
A good release less a wasted pair of pants which I threw away
The blood cleared up shortly thereafter-
Not a pleasant couple of months
This particular formula worked within one to two days. I was hoping for some mild relief, but was instead shocked with drastic improvement.
I also gave it a fair shot by eliminating other herbs like ginseng. I used this formula exclusively with a small dose of magnesium citrate which has a relaxing quality on the system. I also took a very hot bath, which is my normal habit.
So far it seems like a win/win. It is loaded with nice botanicals like extracts of pomegranate and green tea, flaxseed lignan, turmeric, saw palmetto, etcetera, and probably the most potent ingredient is plant sterols.
Many studies on these plants ability to fight inflammation and cancer cells.
And, yeah, I slept through the night. Almost forgot the extreme peace and healing influence a full nights sleep can provide.
I also gave it a fair shot by eliminating other herbs like ginseng. I used this formula exclusively with a small dose of magnesium citrate which has a relaxing quality on the system. I also took a very hot bath, which is my normal habit.
So far it seems like a win/win. It is loaded with nice botanicals like extracts of pomegranate and green tea, flaxseed lignan, turmeric, saw palmetto, etcetera, and probably the most potent ingredient is plant sterols.
Many studies on these plants ability to fight inflammation and cancer cells.
And, yeah, I slept through the night. Almost forgot the extreme peace and healing influence a full nights sleep can provide.
Yep
Pissed blood for couple days
Cumming blood for about 6 weeks
I chose not to imbibe for that time-
after I could not take it any longer I went to an AMP. ( forgot which one) which offered FS with cover- Ensured lights were low and after the deed I did remove condom by myself - I think I actually put it in my pocket for fear of AMP reaction to blood —
A good release less a wasted pair of pants which I threw away
The blood cleared up shortly thereafter-
Not a pleasant couple of months
Pissed blood for couple days
Cumming blood for about 6 weeks
I chose not to imbibe for that time-
after I could not take it any longer I went to an AMP. ( forgot which one) which offered FS with cover- Ensured lights were low and after the deed I did remove condom by myself - I think I actually put it in my pocket for fear of AMP reaction to blood —
A good release less a wasted pair of pants which I threw away
The blood cleared up shortly thereafter-
Not a pleasant couple of months
Saw Palmetto alone, never helped me, either.
Many, many formulas failed to provide relief. When I was overseas in Asia, herbal prescriptions worked very well but also were pricey and inconvenient. (I had to boil herbs)
Also, I found that Extremely hot, Extremely long piping hot sulfur baths in Asia nicely masked the problem and I slept through the night, but when I came back west, I had to face the issue again.
Leaps and bounds progress has been made recently with “extracts of plants” as opposed
to natural herbal powders.
Plants in extracted form possess a powerful targeted potency and act more like a drug. But, tests have proven far less negative side effects as with drugs.
Anyway, I researched many products and formulas. This one had a nice smorgasbord if ingredients. I gave it a try because the company has a great reputation in the business, and the ingredients were intriguing and ones that I never tried.
If I travel, I can pop a few of these and the lower region of the bladder/prostate calms down and behaves as it is supposed to.
So, to address your concern, this is far more than merely saw palmetto or the other herbs used in the past.
I just checked the price. I paid $28 for 180 soft gels capsules.
Many, many formulas failed to provide relief. When I was overseas in Asia, herbal prescriptions worked very well but also were pricey and inconvenient. (I had to boil herbs)
Also, I found that Extremely hot, Extremely long piping hot sulfur baths in Asia nicely masked the problem and I slept through the night, but when I came back west, I had to face the issue again.
Leaps and bounds progress has been made recently with “extracts of plants” as opposed
to natural herbal powders.
Plants in extracted form possess a powerful targeted potency and act more like a drug. But, tests have proven far less negative side effects as with drugs.
Anyway, I researched many products and formulas. This one had a nice smorgasbord if ingredients. I gave it a try because the company has a great reputation in the business, and the ingredients were intriguing and ones that I never tried.
If I travel, I can pop a few of these and the lower region of the bladder/prostate calms down and behaves as it is supposed to.
So, to address your concern, this is far more than merely saw palmetto or the other herbs used in the past.
I just checked the price. I paid $28 for 180 soft gels capsules.
In 2013 my PSA was 2.0 My next test, in 2015 was 4.1. That # in of in itself didn't bother my MD but the fact that it doubled did. So I went to a urologist. He said that I had a choice: I could get a biopsy (when he did not recommend) or I could take 5mg of Finasteride daily for 6 months and see what happens. If the PSA drops dramatically then what is most likely affecting my PSA is an enlarged prostate, if not then may be cancer.
So I took my drug and PSA dropped to 1.1. His recommendation: cut the pill in half and take it every other day. I’ve done such and now 6 years later my PSA is still 1.0 (last week’s test). As far as BHP, don't drink liquids in the evening and I won't have to get up to pee during the night.
WADR @mugi I do not plan to take anything that is not closely regulated as pharmaceuticals are and are not backed by controlled studies.
I've also modified my diet. If you want to read info on the subject (Diet, controlled studies) pick up a copy of How Not To Die by M. Greger, MD. (the title is to the point I think). Chapt 13 How Not to Die from Prostate Cancer is apropos to this thread.
Read my post #8 this thread for more details.
So I took my drug and PSA dropped to 1.1. His recommendation: cut the pill in half and take it every other day. I’ve done such and now 6 years later my PSA is still 1.0 (last week’s test). As far as BHP, don't drink liquids in the evening and I won't have to get up to pee during the night.
WADR @mugi I do not plan to take anything that is not closely regulated as pharmaceuticals are and are not backed by controlled studies.
I've also modified my diet. If you want to read info on the subject (Diet, controlled studies) pick up a copy of How Not To Die by M. Greger, MD. (the title is to the point I think). Chapt 13 How Not to Die from Prostate Cancer is apropos to this thread.
Read my post #8 this thread for more details.
Yes, I am referring to the same product that I mentioned earlier that initiated this most recent discussion.
it is manufactured by NOW FOODS but is sold all over the internet.
I bought through Swanson.com, 800-437-4148. I bought 2, 180 softgels and paid no shipping. Came out to $28.04 per bottle, times two bottles for a grand total of $56.08.
Should keep me well into 2022.
They have a few prostate formulas. This one seems the most comprehensive. It is called: Clinical Strength Prostate Health.
I checked out the ingredients one by one, and research bears out their effectiveness. Apparently when they are all combined in a single formula dose, the composite is more effective. I guess they are trying to cover all their bases.
Hey, I am not long into my using this product, but so far, so good.
Prostate issues can be a nightmare, as many of you gentlemen soldiered through already.
I stand in awe those that have struggled through and survived, and have kept their sanity, wit, sex life and humor in tact, and persevered with great courage.
The earlier natural formulas were basically useless. The newer generation of prostate formulas have more efficacy.
I remember Larry King (RIP) promoting Prostagenix, which was groundbreaking at the time. It is quite a bit more expensive, I believe, and I never tried it, but the primary ingredient was their proprietary blend of beta sitosterol.
So, probably with Prostagenix’s great success, other companies incorporated their own beta sitosterol product into their own medley of potent prostate, antioxidant, anti inflammatory and anti cancer directed herbs.
So, it seems that NOW produced a very economical blend incorporating most of the research thus far.
(just seems that way to me)
Anyway, if it works for you, I am very happy. I had some success and felt that it needed to be shared for whatever it is worth.
Quite sincerely, good luck and God Bless all of you with good health and happiness.
it is manufactured by NOW FOODS but is sold all over the internet.
I bought through Swanson.com, 800-437-4148. I bought 2, 180 softgels and paid no shipping. Came out to $28.04 per bottle, times two bottles for a grand total of $56.08.
Should keep me well into 2022.
They have a few prostate formulas. This one seems the most comprehensive. It is called: Clinical Strength Prostate Health.
I checked out the ingredients one by one, and research bears out their effectiveness. Apparently when they are all combined in a single formula dose, the composite is more effective. I guess they are trying to cover all their bases.
Hey, I am not long into my using this product, but so far, so good.
Prostate issues can be a nightmare, as many of you gentlemen soldiered through already.
I stand in awe those that have struggled through and survived, and have kept their sanity, wit, sex life and humor in tact, and persevered with great courage.
The earlier natural formulas were basically useless. The newer generation of prostate formulas have more efficacy.
I remember Larry King (RIP) promoting Prostagenix, which was groundbreaking at the time. It is quite a bit more expensive, I believe, and I never tried it, but the primary ingredient was their proprietary blend of beta sitosterol.
So, probably with Prostagenix’s great success, other companies incorporated their own beta sitosterol product into their own medley of potent prostate, antioxidant, anti inflammatory and anti cancer directed herbs.
So, it seems that NOW produced a very economical blend incorporating most of the research thus far.
(just seems that way to me)
Anyway, if it works for you, I am very happy. I had some success and felt that it needed to be shared for whatever it is worth.
Quite sincerely, good luck and God Bless all of you with good health and happiness.
With respect to your quote:
“As far as BHP, don't drink liquids in the evening and you won't have to get up to pee during the night.”
The above would seem to be the logical solution, but does not take into account the full scope of the mechanics of the bladder and prostate with respect to inflammation.
it is possible for the prostate to become so inflamed, that even with less than an ounce of urine trapped in the bladder, under the ever tightening grip of an inflamed prostate, that one jumps out of sleep, feeling that the bladder is filled to capacity, and upon reaching the toilet, is dismayed to discover that only an ounce of urine is released.
it has absolutely nothing to do with drinking or not drinking.
When the system is not inflamed and not in spasm, the expandability of the bladder is such that in my own experience, I have drank rather copious amounts of beverage and never felt an untimely urge to urinate until my normal restful sleep time reached completion.
What works for one does not necessarily work for all.
I will not go into further details with respect to your comment:
“regulated pharmaceuticals backed by controlled studies,” because the negativity some experienced with respect to some of those methods has no place here.
I merely shared a very positive result that people might try.
If something worked well for you, and you stated your experience, that is also here for all to see.
“As far as BHP, don't drink liquids in the evening and you won't have to get up to pee during the night.”
The above would seem to be the logical solution, but does not take into account the full scope of the mechanics of the bladder and prostate with respect to inflammation.
it is possible for the prostate to become so inflamed, that even with less than an ounce of urine trapped in the bladder, under the ever tightening grip of an inflamed prostate, that one jumps out of sleep, feeling that the bladder is filled to capacity, and upon reaching the toilet, is dismayed to discover that only an ounce of urine is released.
it has absolutely nothing to do with drinking or not drinking.
When the system is not inflamed and not in spasm, the expandability of the bladder is such that in my own experience, I have drank rather copious amounts of beverage and never felt an untimely urge to urinate until my normal restful sleep time reached completion.
What works for one does not necessarily work for all.
I will not go into further details with respect to your comment:
“regulated pharmaceuticals backed by controlled studies,” because the negativity some experienced with respect to some of those methods has no place here.
I merely shared a very positive result that people might try.
If something worked well for you, and you stated your experience, that is also here for all to see.
I have been to doctors and had tests, President of Urology at the time. Normal findings for my age. Also took other tests. All within normal limits. Recent tests are fine. They point to stress. So, I take a few herbs. Anyway, just was sharing an herbal product. If the shoe fits, wear it. If not, the world is full of solutions.
If you get a chance take a look at:
https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/providers/digest/spotlight-on-saw-palmetto-science
Its a quick read.
It cites various studies including that of the combination that you take. Of particular interest should be the 2014 and 2018 trials.
I particularly liked the 2108 trial in that it compared the combination to 5mg tadalafil (generic Cialis) and found:
"treatment with saw palmetto, selenium, plus lycopene (SeR-Se-Ly) was not inferior to tadalafil 5 mg for improving the International Prostate Symptom Score and maximum urinary flow rate in men with lower urinary tract symptoms. "
This begs the question, since tadalafil has , ahem, other benefits, why not just take tadalafil?
https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/providers/digest/spotlight-on-saw-palmetto-science
Its a quick read.
It cites various studies including that of the combination that you take. Of particular interest should be the 2014 and 2018 trials.
I particularly liked the 2108 trial in that it compared the combination to 5mg tadalafil (generic Cialis) and found:
"treatment with saw palmetto, selenium, plus lycopene (SeR-Se-Ly) was not inferior to tadalafil 5 mg for improving the International Prostate Symptom Score and maximum urinary flow rate in men with lower urinary tract symptoms. "
This begs the question, since tadalafil has , ahem, other benefits, why not just take tadalafil?
One usually chooses botanicals over drugs for the far fewer side effects.
For example, putting the great erections attributed to tadalafil aside, the side effects are skin melanoma, (cancer) as the mechanism of the drug’s action is to inhibit an enzyme known as PDE5. The successful inhibition of this enzyme relieves erectile dysfunction, but inhibiting this enzyme has also been shown to cause cell mutation cultivating melanoma genesis, or the creation of melanocytes which develop into melanoma.
So, I am a monger, and I do like women crooning over my hard erections, but it is just not worth the risk of cancer.
There is current litigation against Cialis (Eli Lily and Co.) concerning the unmentioned warning as to the link between an increased risk of developing melanoma and taking this ED drug.
I mentioned an herbal product containing a host of botanicals and not solely Saw Palmetto.
Everything has side effects, even the water we drink, but when the side-effects reach the proportion of creating a scourge as great as cancer, I would simply put up with having a “just good wood erection,” as opposed to a “blue steel erection.”
The compliments a lady gives me on my manhood are far too fleeting when compared to the plight of curing a hideous disease like cancer with the assault of powerful drugs destroying cancer cells and destroying the rest of one’s body with it. I just don’t want that risk, especially in my senior years.
But, to each his own. I am a simple vegetarian, so it is quite natural for people like myself to be attracted to, and interested in the qualities of plants and their effect on the human biology.
For example, putting the great erections attributed to tadalafil aside, the side effects are skin melanoma, (cancer) as the mechanism of the drug’s action is to inhibit an enzyme known as PDE5. The successful inhibition of this enzyme relieves erectile dysfunction, but inhibiting this enzyme has also been shown to cause cell mutation cultivating melanoma genesis, or the creation of melanocytes which develop into melanoma.
So, I am a monger, and I do like women crooning over my hard erections, but it is just not worth the risk of cancer.
There is current litigation against Cialis (Eli Lily and Co.) concerning the unmentioned warning as to the link between an increased risk of developing melanoma and taking this ED drug.
I mentioned an herbal product containing a host of botanicals and not solely Saw Palmetto.
Everything has side effects, even the water we drink, but when the side-effects reach the proportion of creating a scourge as great as cancer, I would simply put up with having a “just good wood erection,” as opposed to a “blue steel erection.”
The compliments a lady gives me on my manhood are far too fleeting when compared to the plight of curing a hideous disease like cancer with the assault of powerful drugs destroying cancer cells and destroying the rest of one’s body with it. I just don’t want that risk, especially in my senior years.
But, to each his own. I am a simple vegetarian, so it is quite natural for people like myself to be attracted to, and interested in the qualities of plants and their effect on the human biology.
That's quite a sweeping statement sir.
To name a few botanicals that can cause (lethal) problems: Lily of the Valley, Castor Oil Plant (Castor Bean), Foxglove (Digitalis), Belladonna (Deadly nightshade) and Oleander.
The studies show shows a connection, not a cause. (big difference). For example there is a connection between unprotected sex and HIV but unprotected sex is not the cause. In any case the connection (C & V) is very small.
Good thing the lawyers weren't around when aspirin or quinine started being used for medical purposes.
I am primarily a vegetarian also. I do enjoy eggs and fish (and perhaps a certain part of female anatomy unless it has a fishy odor).
BTW, very important for vegetarians and absolutely essential for vegans, that B12 supplements are taken.
To name a few botanicals that can cause (lethal) problems: Lily of the Valley, Castor Oil Plant (Castor Bean), Foxglove (Digitalis), Belladonna (Deadly nightshade) and Oleander.
The studies show shows a connection, not a cause. (big difference). For example there is a connection between unprotected sex and HIV but unprotected sex is not the cause. In any case the connection (C & V) is very small.
Good thing the lawyers weren't around when aspirin or quinine started being used for medical purposes.
I am primarily a vegetarian also. I do enjoy eggs and fish (and perhaps a certain part of female anatomy unless it has a fishy odor).
BTW, very important for vegetarians and absolutely essential for vegans, that B12 supplements are taken.
I just want to update my experience with respect to prostate healing.
Just to be clear, as far as recent medical tests, my prostate was okay. But, I was getting up at night. And, during intercourse, I felt uncomfortable sometimes, and sometimes it was okay.
But, getting up at night was not pleasant. I don’t need much sleep, but 4 to 5 hours, uninterrupted sleep, keeps me happy for the day following.
As most know, I like my alternative treatments and try to steer away from drugs, even aspirin. I just would rather try to cure the problem if possible, rather than hide the symptoms.
I do know many remedies from many cultures, and many work pretty well, but not completely. But, for some reason I was drawn to a product manufactured by NOW Foods, called: “Clinical Strength Prostate Health.”
I took it for approximately a month and experienced some relief, and I sometimes doubled the dose. Definitely helped but I wanted to go for complete relief and further healing.
So, I ground down about a pound of cheap common variety $8 a bag tribulus terrestris, aka: gokshura, puncture vine, ci Ji li, bai Ji li, et cetera. I took about a half teaspoon to a teaspoon of the pure powder on a dry tongue followed by boiled water, twice a day for about 15 days, along with the NOW product.
But, after feeling gradually much better, I dropped the NOW product completely, and solely relied on the pure ground (in a high speed blender) tribulus terrestris. (I did not use the “extract form.” Possibly the extract form has a much higher affect on increased sexual prowess)
Anyway, I am here to report after experimentation, that I am not bothered by bladder/prostate symptoms at the present time.
Further affects that I have noticed taking the tribulus is a cool, clean, relaxed feeling in the prostate, bladder neck, and urethra. Also, a lot more energy, very sharp and accurate decision making, reaction time and speech.
However, there is a bit of mild sharp aggression that the herb imparts. Never a feeling for violence, but an urge to set things in order and get things done sooner rather than later. Definitely more strength, energy and initiative in my exercise program and in performing physical labor, more enjoying it, rather than a chore.
But, as far as a sexual stimulant, alone, by itself, I do not notice much change. (like I said previously, tribulus terrestris “extract” might be better suited for sexual arousal) Sexually, I am much improved because I have more energy and no impediments and no blockages, no swelling and excess water in the kidney system has been cleared away. Definitely feeling much younger and more chipper.
In conclusion, I found that the tribulus terrestris cleaned out and renewed my body in many ways, especially the genitourinary system.
My experimentation informed me that taking strong libido herbs, like ginseng, horny goat weed, “you gui wan” formula, et cetera, while the system has not been properly cleaned out is not nearly as effective as employing strong herbs after the system is clean, and is able to absorb and use them well, or at least employing tribulus simultaneously.
I am just reporting this for posterity’s sake for those who might need it now or in the future, as mongers seem to put more mileage on the genitourinary system, and might need to get a tune-up from time-to-time, in order to avoid a major overhaul.
And the above, coupled with the fact, that I am a real person, not selling a product, relaying to you a possible method for you that was a success for myself that totally changed the quality of my days and nights.
(disclaimer: I am not a doctor, nor health care professional offering treatment or advice, nor am I making any recommendations. I am merely iterating these most recent experiences)
Just to be clear, as far as recent medical tests, my prostate was okay. But, I was getting up at night. And, during intercourse, I felt uncomfortable sometimes, and sometimes it was okay.
But, getting up at night was not pleasant. I don’t need much sleep, but 4 to 5 hours, uninterrupted sleep, keeps me happy for the day following.
As most know, I like my alternative treatments and try to steer away from drugs, even aspirin. I just would rather try to cure the problem if possible, rather than hide the symptoms.
I do know many remedies from many cultures, and many work pretty well, but not completely. But, for some reason I was drawn to a product manufactured by NOW Foods, called: “Clinical Strength Prostate Health.”
I took it for approximately a month and experienced some relief, and I sometimes doubled the dose. Definitely helped but I wanted to go for complete relief and further healing.
So, I ground down about a pound of cheap common variety $8 a bag tribulus terrestris, aka: gokshura, puncture vine, ci Ji li, bai Ji li, et cetera. I took about a half teaspoon to a teaspoon of the pure powder on a dry tongue followed by boiled water, twice a day for about 15 days, along with the NOW product.
But, after feeling gradually much better, I dropped the NOW product completely, and solely relied on the pure ground (in a high speed blender) tribulus terrestris. (I did not use the “extract form.” Possibly the extract form has a much higher affect on increased sexual prowess)
Anyway, I am here to report after experimentation, that I am not bothered by bladder/prostate symptoms at the present time.
Further affects that I have noticed taking the tribulus is a cool, clean, relaxed feeling in the prostate, bladder neck, and urethra. Also, a lot more energy, very sharp and accurate decision making, reaction time and speech.
However, there is a bit of mild sharp aggression that the herb imparts. Never a feeling for violence, but an urge to set things in order and get things done sooner rather than later. Definitely more strength, energy and initiative in my exercise program and in performing physical labor, more enjoying it, rather than a chore.
But, as far as a sexual stimulant, alone, by itself, I do not notice much change. (like I said previously, tribulus terrestris “extract” might be better suited for sexual arousal) Sexually, I am much improved because I have more energy and no impediments and no blockages, no swelling and excess water in the kidney system has been cleared away. Definitely feeling much younger and more chipper.
In conclusion, I found that the tribulus terrestris cleaned out and renewed my body in many ways, especially the genitourinary system.
My experimentation informed me that taking strong libido herbs, like ginseng, horny goat weed, “you gui wan” formula, et cetera, while the system has not been properly cleaned out is not nearly as effective as employing strong herbs after the system is clean, and is able to absorb and use them well, or at least employing tribulus simultaneously.
I am just reporting this for posterity’s sake for those who might need it now or in the future, as mongers seem to put more mileage on the genitourinary system, and might need to get a tune-up from time-to-time, in order to avoid a major overhaul.
And the above, coupled with the fact, that I am a real person, not selling a product, relaying to you a possible method for you that was a success for myself that totally changed the quality of my days and nights.
(disclaimer: I am not a doctor, nor health care professional offering treatment or advice, nor am I making any recommendations. I am merely iterating these most recent experiences)
No, I do not take regular colonics. But, I eat 99% vegetarian and mostly high fiber grains, seeds and beans. So, at least two bowel movements per day.
I agree with you, keeping the intestines very clean is of the utmost importance. But this seemed to be some congestion in the urinary system that was somehow alleviated, at least to the degree necessary to free up a nice flow of energy, not only in the genitourinary system, but throughout the energetics of the body.
Puncture vine (tribulus terrestris) is known to have the quality of clearing the kidney system, dating back to antiquity.
Most probably I caused it by too much severe practice of Taoist semen retention. That is not an easy practice, and unless guided by a master, could create problems. It is more appropriate for Taoist Kung-Fu and Qi-Gong monasteries, where the ancient secret is kept alive and passed down by teacher to student. They are sworn to secrecy so that the uninitiated in that practice don’t somehow grab hold of a fragment of it and start practicing and create disorder in the system.
(“mea culpa” - Latin for “my own guilt”)
In the past, I have gone to professionals and engaged in a series of high-colonics. It was useful, and especially interesting when the therapist informs you, that by the color and composition of the debris (fecal matter) leaving your system, whether the hydrotherapy was able to release old impacted waste once lodged in crevices of the large intestines.
Some also use coffee enemas, castor oil enemas and castor oil by mouth to cleanse both the large and small intestines.
Another feature of caltrops (yet another name for tribulus terrestris) is that it is a slight diuretic, but not a harsh diuretic like so many other herbs. It is a gentle diuretic but with a powerful ability to dredge obstructions.
Years ago I did take a short Ayurvedic course and was introduced to it as a major herb. But, in Chinese medicine, it is used, but not with such major importance.
GNC and other outlets geared toward modern bodybuilding and weightlifting clients distribute tribulus terrestris in buckets. But, there is a difference. That is in “extract” form. They believe that it increases testosterone, even though studies have proven otherwise. But they feel that it contributes to lean body mass and makes their workout psyche more formidable. In extracted form, it acts more like a focused drug. In my opinion an herbal extract is nothing less than a drug, possibly with less side-effects if used as directed.
I agree with you, keeping the intestines very clean is of the utmost importance. But this seemed to be some congestion in the urinary system that was somehow alleviated, at least to the degree necessary to free up a nice flow of energy, not only in the genitourinary system, but throughout the energetics of the body.
Puncture vine (tribulus terrestris) is known to have the quality of clearing the kidney system, dating back to antiquity.
Most probably I caused it by too much severe practice of Taoist semen retention. That is not an easy practice, and unless guided by a master, could create problems. It is more appropriate for Taoist Kung-Fu and Qi-Gong monasteries, where the ancient secret is kept alive and passed down by teacher to student. They are sworn to secrecy so that the uninitiated in that practice don’t somehow grab hold of a fragment of it and start practicing and create disorder in the system.
(“mea culpa” - Latin for “my own guilt”)
In the past, I have gone to professionals and engaged in a series of high-colonics. It was useful, and especially interesting when the therapist informs you, that by the color and composition of the debris (fecal matter) leaving your system, whether the hydrotherapy was able to release old impacted waste once lodged in crevices of the large intestines.
Some also use coffee enemas, castor oil enemas and castor oil by mouth to cleanse both the large and small intestines.
Another feature of caltrops (yet another name for tribulus terrestris) is that it is a slight diuretic, but not a harsh diuretic like so many other herbs. It is a gentle diuretic but with a powerful ability to dredge obstructions.
Years ago I did take a short Ayurvedic course and was introduced to it as a major herb. But, in Chinese medicine, it is used, but not with such major importance.
GNC and other outlets geared toward modern bodybuilding and weightlifting clients distribute tribulus terrestris in buckets. But, there is a difference. That is in “extract” form. They believe that it increases testosterone, even though studies have proven otherwise. But they feel that it contributes to lean body mass and makes their workout psyche more formidable. In extracted form, it acts more like a focused drug. In my opinion an herbal extract is nothing less than a drug, possibly with less side-effects if used as directed.