No more handjobs?

#21
Slinky -

I think you touched on this in your first post - many girls don't think of themselves as "whores" if htey only do HJ's. It goes back to the Clinton thing and the definition of what sex is.

Many in the younger generation today don't consider giving a HJ having sex. Actually, I've spoken to some and they don't even consider giving or receiving oral sex as having sex.

It's a different world out there today -

Most times, I don't really care how I finish if the rest of the session is fulfilling. By that I mean a HJ with lots of contact and DFK can be just as nice as a cold fish who allows FS.
 
#22
I have to say, I love hand jobs, especially when I can't afford the other stuff..

when ever I get a lap dance, I just direct the dancer's hands down there and keep them there till completion..

never have to pay more than the 10 dollars for the dance..

it is of course with the clothes on...

there are some dancers that will do it in a private room, for only 20 dollars...

:D
 

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#23
billyS said:
So which places on LI are you talking about then with Neon lights?
Sorry, I misunderstood the question (I thought you were referring to a diferen post.... this is almost a year old.... ). yes, when talking about neon lights, etc. I was referring to those places.
 

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#24
Aegis911 said:
. By that I mean a HJ with lots of contact and DFK can be just as nice as a cold fish who allows FS.
we agree, but:

slinkybender said:
I'll note that on more than a few occassions I let "dancers" know that I'd rather have DFK and a HJ than a CBJ. I think the ability to get girls who are good at both those activities, or even willing to try, have greatly diminished in the recent past.
or am I just going to the wrong places? Where do you find these girls now?
 
#25
That's the question, isn't it?

Every now and then you run into one, something clicks, and away you go. They tend not to last and you have to hunt for another.
 
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#26
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Aegis911 said:
That's the question, isn't it?
Every now and then you run into one, something clicks, and away you go. They tend not to last and you have to hunt for another.
Yes, that has happened to me several times. You take chances, meet 4-5 druggie skanks, a grouchy Russian, malodorous Korean, a possible cop, then you hit the jackpot. See her a few times then she decides what was a fun experiment in earning extra cash is not exactly what she expected/wanted and moves on.

So you resume your search.
 
#27
Truth said:
It would help if we had some actual rates so we could see if these girls were simply busier at the mainly HJ joints you speak of, or whether guys were "overpaying" for HJ's, or what.

I mean, i could easily see why a girl could make more money at a HJ spot if she was getting $40 a HJ as opposed to waiting all night for some guy to decide he's willing to fork over $100 to fuck her.
Slinky's got an interesting point. The HJ market seems to have gone up crazily in price, if you believe CL ads, which isn't necessarily smart. The HJ only girls are asking $150-$200 a session, justifying by calling it "tantric" or "aromatherapy" or some such, and talking like they at least give a good handjob. They make no apologies for not being FS or charging about the same.

In the very first days of MP's I went to the Tiki-Tiki in Falls Church, Virginia, which was an "exsperience" with decorated rooms, bubble baths, etc. The girls were all Americans in those days. Handjobs were automatic but there wasn't any roaming or extras. Some of the places even gave the girls lie detector tests (which they could do then) to make sure they weren't giiving extras. It didn't take long before the scene started looking more like it does now.
 
#29
Good rub and tug places are fairly wide spread out in Jersey for a going rate of $50 plus $40 or so. And Frankie and Billy are available for $50 to $75 tip. As for the city, I really have not visited all that many places in the city in the past year. You use to be able to high quality rub and tugs and WGS, and I believe they will be re-opening soon.
 
#30
slinkybender said:
I think that, just as much as there were always girls who wanted to think that they weren't hookers because all they gave was handjobs, there are/were a group og guys who didn't consider themselves Johns because all they got was HJ's.
That's sort of like Bill Clinton believing that a blow job isn't sex.

It doesn't surprise me that with all the Internet porn, and Intenet provider ads/reviews/information out there, that people expect more "action-wise" today than in the "golden days of HJs." Slinky, I hate to say it, but, you're sounding positively quaint!
 
#33
Stick a condom in your mouth, and while getting ready to perform a BJ,
slowly but surely slide the condom over his dick.
And when your are done, the condom is left on his dick.
It takes some practice, but it can be done.
 
#34
I'm with Aegis here. What used to be considered sex (something I had to fucking WORK for) like a BJ is nothing now.

as I touched on in another post, there are a few great r&t places around. If you're ever upstate, Halcyon is one. In Lancaster, PA, there's Whirl-A-Sage.

Not that you should drive all that way; my point is they are around. IMHO, though, those posting on CL are WAY overpriced.
 
#36
certainly a safer MO

Remember that asian joint in Rockaway NJ across from Stewarts?
I would get the 30 min massage for 40, which led to some tickling of the boys to a flip with an erotic happy ending.
$20 tip was sufficient and I never asked for anything more.
Twas a weekly pitstop for 60 with literally no risk of disease, min risk of trouble. Try to find that situation today.
If any owners of MP's are reading, go for the 20-30 min rub-gut-n-go for $30-$40 and encourage the girls to specialize in the erotic hj. In fact, limit them to that service only! The turn over will be quick generating better fees for the house (two $40 halfs is better than a $60 hr)
Plus you'll attract some "rookie talent" because the girls don't see hj as prosititution at all.
 
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