Quick Update: talked to a dancer I know pretty well and she told me we couldn't do anything different and that it would just be better to go to the regular VIP area upstairs. Now this is a chick who is inches away with hooking up with me outside the place and is pretty permissive upstairs so things are not looking good. I really wish someone had some info cause I am getting discouraged.
Lace in West Nyack?!?!?
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Heh. You're funny, man. You get a stripper who knows you really well to tell you the truth about the "Presidents Room", and you still think you're missing something. This is exactly how guys talk themselves into doing a champagne room when there is no good reason for it. Two year old information about someone who knew someone who thought they heard something about someone else getting laid in the PR is not a reason. It's wishful thinking.
Actually, I think that she doesn't do anything like that and doesn't want me trying it out with anyone else to be honest. She was all pissed off when I got a half-hour with one of the other dancers when she was talking to some guys and made me wait too long. She's kinda possessive really.
The original guy is a seemingly respected poster who said he had multiple first hand experiences. And believe me, I am usually one to talk myself out of wasting money on these chicks. That's why I need a lot more than 2 year old info to drop $600 for a half hour and find out : )
The original guy is a seemingly respected poster who said he had multiple first hand experiences. And believe me, I am usually one to talk myself out of wasting money on these chicks. That's why I need a lot more than 2 year old info to drop $600 for a half hour and find out : )
I am soooooo there.
Nice report Zoltan, I had no idea any more places like this existed in Rockland Co. It definitely sounds like its worth checking out. I go to places like this in Queens with Gavy and Paul Bunyon (read the link that Forty Dog gave you), but lately its been tough to get out to Queens late in the evening/early in the morning. This place might just be what the doctor ordered. You just made this ficha mongers day
BTW, how old were the girls working?
Nice report Zoltan, I had no idea any more places like this existed in Rockland Co. It definitely sounds like its worth checking out. I go to places like this in Queens with Gavy and Paul Bunyon (read the link that Forty Dog gave you), but lately its been tough to get out to Queens late in the evening/early in the morning. This place might just be what the doctor ordered. You just made this ficha mongers day
BTW, how old were the girls working?
You have to go into these places with the same attitude you go into a stripclub with. My experience in Queens has taught me that most of these girls are bullshit, but every once in a while you can find that diamond in the rough. Gavy is the master of taking girls out of these places, with Bunyon being a close second. Anyway, didn't mean to hijack this thread. I'll review this place in the LFB thread when I get a chance to check it out.
I understand where you're coming from regarding the economics of it but there are a lot of problems with providers that I am just not a big fan of:
1. Too much man traffic. Strippers who might go farther than others still have no where near the level of bodily fluid exposure that providers have. A stripper who will blow you in the back room at a high end club probably blows less guys than your average bar slut. Also, I'm not a fan of sucking on the nipples of a girl who just got titty-fucked with a cumshot 5 mins before me for the sixth time that day.
2. Most high-end providers want to know your name, where you work, phone #'s, referrals, etc. etc. etc. I have no fucking desire to spread my shit around and end up in some "black book" that gets read in court one day because a city councilman was a client too (or Elliot Spitzer).
3. Beauty. Most high end strippers are better looking and younger than most providers.
4. Selection. At a strip club you can sit around and look at 20-30 girls, have a drink, have some fun and pick a couple. The process with providers is not as enjoyable a one (sitting at your computer).
These are my reasons.
1. Too much man traffic. Strippers who might go farther than others still have no where near the level of bodily fluid exposure that providers have. A stripper who will blow you in the back room at a high end club probably blows less guys than your average bar slut. Also, I'm not a fan of sucking on the nipples of a girl who just got titty-fucked with a cumshot 5 mins before me for the sixth time that day.
2. Most high-end providers want to know your name, where you work, phone #'s, referrals, etc. etc. etc. I have no fucking desire to spread my shit around and end up in some "black book" that gets read in court one day because a city councilman was a client too (or Elliot Spitzer).
3. Beauty. Most high end strippers are better looking and younger than most providers.
4. Selection. At a strip club you can sit around and look at 20-30 girls, have a drink, have some fun and pick a couple. The process with providers is not as enjoyable a one (sitting at your computer).
These are my reasons.
Four terrific reasons, (and I'll bet Thorn will agree with them) but you forgot one very important one: spontaneity. Finding that diamond in the rough that you hit it off with personally and physically and having it occur instantly is what makes the stripclubthing addictive. There aint nothing spontaneous about making an appointment with a hooker.
Totally agreed. I agree with Mark above as well.
But then you do what NP does at the high end scale and even more appropriately, in this case, what I am doing [because I am working in the same price range and quality of the women at Lace in W.Nyack while NP is working clubs like PEC where dancers learn to expect much bigger $$$].
You spend a little more in time, about the same in money, but change the modus operandi to moving it outside the club. There the same $400 plus the cost of a decent dinner and a good hotel room [say $700-$800 altogether] gets you not a couple of hours of hooker sex, but an all nighter of high quality, boy-friend, like sex. [and in even the lower end, like the gals of Lookers, Nardones, Lace in Wayne, Stilettos and various other "gentleman's clubs in and about Northern NJ for about $500- 600 total for the night or extended -meaning 6 hours or so with the meal time, meal and room included].
Just upping the level of your game a fraction is all it takes.
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I know Axe knows this, and I am pretty sure Mark does as well, but for those following along who would ask why invest that kind of effort when just purchasing is soooo much easier:
You get a woman who isn't seeing even just two or three guys a day. In fact she is probably seeing, at the level she is seeing you, only 1 or 2 guys a week.
She is pretending to herself, because she desperately wants to believe its so, that this financial arrangement doesn't make her a "hooker". Therefore she can't very well go treating you like a john because it totally screws with her ability to think of herself as simply a friend giving benefits to a helpful pal of hers. Not a customer at all, ya see.
That the above leads to more spontaneous sexual situations, that even have side spin benefits in the clubs and when she is through with you; which eventually happens because extension of "the game" that both of you are true friends means you both have to be ever more intimate on an emotional level and that is risky for both of you, so she passes you off or puts in a good word for you with friend(s) of hers [or it simply ends... though if you are both not on the same page it can be the stickiest part of this business].
Last, but certainly not least, that some times you actually do come away with a friend, though at that point you have probably ceased having sex. That friend though is someone you can now talk to about all of this crazy business and share a laugh with about it all. Surprisingly good stuff, I have to say.
You get a woman who isn't seeing even just two or three guys a day. In fact she is probably seeing, at the level she is seeing you, only 1 or 2 guys a week.
She is pretending to herself, because she desperately wants to believe its so, that this financial arrangement doesn't make her a "hooker". Therefore she can't very well go treating you like a john because it totally screws with her ability to think of herself as simply a friend giving benefits to a helpful pal of hers. Not a customer at all, ya see.
That the above leads to more spontaneous sexual situations, that even have side spin benefits in the clubs and when she is through with you; which eventually happens because extension of "the game" that both of you are true friends means you both have to be ever more intimate on an emotional level and that is risky for both of you, so she passes you off or puts in a good word for you with friend(s) of hers [or it simply ends... though if you are both not on the same page it can be the stickiest part of this business].
Last, but certainly not least, that some times you actually do come away with a friend, though at that point you have probably ceased having sex. That friend though is someone you can now talk to about all of this crazy business and share a laugh with about it all. Surprisingly good stuff, I have to say.
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Yes they were.
Me too. {LOL}
BTW, soon the crew [give or take] of our outing in Queens will be heading up to W.Nyack to check out this place we've heard about [flecha in nature]. We'll be hitting Lace first and then onward to the other location. We've heard about Thursdays but I think, due the fact its apt to be a rather late night, we'll try for a Friday. Would that be good for you and should I give you a ring when the details are finalized? I'll meet you in the city when I pick up Slinky and you can ride with us, if that is good for you?
[finish this via LL if you give me the thumbs up, or you can call me]
Me too. {LOL}
BTW, soon the crew [give or take] of our outing in Queens will be heading up to W.Nyack to check out this place we've heard about [flecha in nature]. We'll be hitting Lace first and then onward to the other location. We've heard about Thursdays but I think, due the fact its apt to be a rather late night, we'll try for a Friday. Would that be good for you and should I give you a ring when the details are finalized? I'll meet you in the city when I pick up Slinky and you can ride with us, if that is good for you?
[finish this via LL if you give me the thumbs up, or you can call me]