So I now have the answer to one thing I always wondered about: what do providers do when they have their period? The answer in this case was "carry on like it wasn't happening." Which is fine, and, in fact, she cleaned up well enough that I couldn't notice anything during DATY, which smelled and tasted clean as a whistle. But after I stuck m fingers deep inside her and then licked them, there was definitely something more there than just pussy juice. So my stupid newbieish question du **** is, forgetting about whether or not it is gross, is there any greater health risk in ingesting menstrual blood than there is in ingesting regular vaginal fluids?
Ingesting Menstrual Blood?
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I'm sure the risk is greater for all sorts of things, including hep, but I'm also sure nobody has quantified it either.
http://www.gmhc.org/health/women/women_sex_hiv.html
http://www.gmhc.org/health/women/women_sex_hiv.html
Bloodborne Diseases
anytime there is a swap of body fluids there is some sort of risks to be taken .
Esp blood .
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Bloodborne pathogens are microorganisms such as viruses or bacteria that are carried in blood and can cause disease in people. There are many different bloodborne pathogens including malaria, syphilis, and brucellosis, but Hepatitis B (HBV) and the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) are the two diseases specifically addressed by the OSHA Bloodborne Pathogen Standard.
Examples
Hepatitis B (HBV)
In the United States, approximately 300,000 people are infected with HBV annually. Of these cases, a small percentage are fatal.
"Hepatitis" means "inflammation of the liver," and, as its name implies, Hepatitis B is a virus that infects the liver. While there are several different types of Hepatitis, Hepatitis B is transmitted primarily through "blood to blood" contact. Hepatitis B initially causes inflammation of the liver, but it can lead to more serious conditions such as cirrhosis and liver cancer.
There is no "cure" or specific treatment for HBV, but many people who contract the disease will develop antibodies which help them get over the infection and protect them from getting it again. It is important to note, however, that there are different kinds of hepatitis, so infection with HBV will not stop someone from getting another type.
The Hepatitis B virus is very durable, and it can survive in dried blood for up to seven days. For this reason, this virus is the primary concern for employees such as housekeepers, custodians, laundry personnel and other employees who may come in contact with blood or potentially infectious materials in a non first-aid or medical care situation.
Symptoms:
The symptoms of HBV are very much like a mild "flu". Initially there is a sense of fatigue, possible stomach pain, loss of appetite, and even nausea. As the disease continues to develop, jaundice (a distinct yellowing of the skin and eyes), and a darkened urine will often occur. However, people who are infected with HBV will often show no symptoms for some time. After exposure it can take 1-9 months before symptoms become noticeable. Loss of appetite and stomach pain, for example, commonly appear within 1-3 months, but can occur as soon as 2 weeks or as long as 6-9 months after infection
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Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)
AIDS, or acquired immune deficiency syndrome, is caused by a virus called the human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV. Once a person has been infected with HIV, it may be many years before AIDS actually develops. HIV attacks the body's immune system, weakening it so that it cannot fight other deadly diseases. AIDS is a fatal disease, and while treatment for it is improving, there is no known cure.
Estimates on the number of people infected with HIV vary, but some estimates suggest that an average of 35,000 people are infected every year in the US (in 2000, 45,000 new infections were reported). It is believed that as of 2000, 920,000 persons were living with HIV/AIDS in the United States. These numbers could be higher, as many people who are infected with HIV may be completely unaware of it.
The HIV virus is very fragile and will not survive very long outside of the human body. It is primarily of concern to employees providing first aid or medical care in situations involving fresh blood or other potentially infectious materials. It is estimated that the chances of contracting HIV in a workplace environment are only 0.4%. However, because it is such a devastating disease, all precautions must be taken to avoid exposure.
AIDS infection essentially occurs in three broad stages. The first stage happens when a person is actually infected with HIV. After the initial infection, a person may show few or no signs of illness for many years. Eventually, in the second stage, an individual may begin to suffer swollen lymph glands or other lesser diseases which begin to take advantage of the body's weakened immune system. The second stage is believed to eventually lead to AIDS, the third and final stage, in all cases. In this stage, the body becomes completely unable to fight off life-threatening diseases and infections
Symptoms:
Symptoms of HIV infection can vary, but often include weakness, fever, sore throat, nausea, headaches, diarrhea, a white coating on the tongue, weight loss, and swollen lymph glands.
anytime there is a swap of body fluids there is some sort of risks to be taken .
Esp blood .
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Bloodborne pathogens are microorganisms such as viruses or bacteria that are carried in blood and can cause disease in people. There are many different bloodborne pathogens including malaria, syphilis, and brucellosis, but Hepatitis B (HBV) and the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) are the two diseases specifically addressed by the OSHA Bloodborne Pathogen Standard.
Examples
Hepatitis B (HBV)
In the United States, approximately 300,000 people are infected with HBV annually. Of these cases, a small percentage are fatal.
"Hepatitis" means "inflammation of the liver," and, as its name implies, Hepatitis B is a virus that infects the liver. While there are several different types of Hepatitis, Hepatitis B is transmitted primarily through "blood to blood" contact. Hepatitis B initially causes inflammation of the liver, but it can lead to more serious conditions such as cirrhosis and liver cancer.
There is no "cure" or specific treatment for HBV, but many people who contract the disease will develop antibodies which help them get over the infection and protect them from getting it again. It is important to note, however, that there are different kinds of hepatitis, so infection with HBV will not stop someone from getting another type.
The Hepatitis B virus is very durable, and it can survive in dried blood for up to seven days. For this reason, this virus is the primary concern for employees such as housekeepers, custodians, laundry personnel and other employees who may come in contact with blood or potentially infectious materials in a non first-aid or medical care situation.
Symptoms:
The symptoms of HBV are very much like a mild "flu". Initially there is a sense of fatigue, possible stomach pain, loss of appetite, and even nausea. As the disease continues to develop, jaundice (a distinct yellowing of the skin and eyes), and a darkened urine will often occur. However, people who are infected with HBV will often show no symptoms for some time. After exposure it can take 1-9 months before symptoms become noticeable. Loss of appetite and stomach pain, for example, commonly appear within 1-3 months, but can occur as soon as 2 weeks or as long as 6-9 months after infection
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Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)
AIDS, or acquired immune deficiency syndrome, is caused by a virus called the human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV. Once a person has been infected with HIV, it may be many years before AIDS actually develops. HIV attacks the body's immune system, weakening it so that it cannot fight other deadly diseases. AIDS is a fatal disease, and while treatment for it is improving, there is no known cure.
Estimates on the number of people infected with HIV vary, but some estimates suggest that an average of 35,000 people are infected every year in the US (in 2000, 45,000 new infections were reported). It is believed that as of 2000, 920,000 persons were living with HIV/AIDS in the United States. These numbers could be higher, as many people who are infected with HIV may be completely unaware of it.
The HIV virus is very fragile and will not survive very long outside of the human body. It is primarily of concern to employees providing first aid or medical care in situations involving fresh blood or other potentially infectious materials. It is estimated that the chances of contracting HIV in a workplace environment are only 0.4%. However, because it is such a devastating disease, all precautions must be taken to avoid exposure.
AIDS infection essentially occurs in three broad stages. The first stage happens when a person is actually infected with HIV. After the initial infection, a person may show few or no signs of illness for many years. Eventually, in the second stage, an individual may begin to suffer swollen lymph glands or other lesser diseases which begin to take advantage of the body's weakened immune system. The second stage is believed to eventually lead to AIDS, the third and final stage, in all cases. In this stage, the body becomes completely unable to fight off life-threatening diseases and infections
Symptoms:
Symptoms of HIV infection can vary, but often include weakness, fever, sore throat, nausea, headaches, diarrhea, a white coating on the tongue, weight loss, and swollen lymph glands.
Hey, I pretty much agree with the above note, but don't freak over the HIV, here is a good link:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/AIDS-339/Menstrual-Blood-Oral.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/q/AIDS-339/Menstrual-Blood-Oral.htm
I know most of that, sort of. My real questions, I suppose, are (1) how typical is it for a provider to see clients during her period (trying to figure out if this has happened to me before or not, as I do unprotected DATY with every provider I see), (2) is menstrual blood more dangerous than regular vaginal fluids or as dangerous as real blood coming out of a break in the skin (given that menstrual blood is mostly dead cells from the lining of the uterus), and (3) how dangerous could it have been to have simply licked whatever was on my fingers (and should I stop doing that). Obviously, if one wanted to be perfectly safe, the only thing that one would indulge in would be covered hand jobs. I'm not willing to go that far. What I'm trying to figure out is where the line is between sensible behaviour and unreasonable risk.
If someone were to give you a number, like 1 in 10,000, would it or could it have any real meaning? The variables are all over the place here. If this starts occupying your mind a lot, my advice to you would be twofold (okay threefold).
1.) Take up a slightly dangerous sport like surfing, scuba, or (best of all) hang gliding. Figure what are your risks there, and I'll bet for hang gliding and surfing the bigger waves it's higher, especially for a newb.
2.) See a good therapist. Honestly I think that can be helpful in moderation.
3.) Ratchet down your hobby to a level you are comfortable with.
If you really want perspective, hang out with promiscuous gay men. They'll give you all sorts of 411. Maybe too much. I know my bud from Seattle was all over the map (and he caught stuff too even protected). I did not ask the details, at the time I had my own (thankfully unfounded) worries.
1.) Take up a slightly dangerous sport like surfing, scuba, or (best of all) hang gliding. Figure what are your risks there, and I'll bet for hang gliding and surfing the bigger waves it's higher, especially for a newb.
2.) See a good therapist. Honestly I think that can be helpful in moderation.
3.) Ratchet down your hobby to a level you are comfortable with.
If you really want perspective, hang out with promiscuous gay men. They'll give you all sorts of 411. Maybe too much. I know my bud from Seattle was all over the map (and he caught stuff too even protected). I did not ask the details, at the time I had my own (thankfully unfounded) worries.
risk of bloodborne from open cut or cervical sloughing (and all are not dead cells) many are alive of blood would be dark brown instead of bright red are both high risk sdfar asboodborne pathogensincludingHIV &even high risk for the 5 different identifieds strains of Hepatitis. Add intothe mix Herpes, Chlamydia, Syphilis,gonorhea ,genetital warts & NSU. You can goodle all for info & I am sure there are many others that do not come to mind at the moment
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An interesting school of thought, that I read about a year or 2 ago, is that it is not normal (from an evolutionary and/or biological point of view) for the human female to have 480 periods during her lifetime. What is normal is for her to get pregnant soon after she gets her 1 period, not have one during 9 months of pregnancy, then not have one during 2 years or so of breastfeeding. After breastfeeding stops to get pregnant soon after and repeat this process a couple of times until she either dies in childbirth or gets eaten by a saber tooth tiger. So what's normal is maybe 10 periods over her lifetime. Most other female mamals in nature follow this pattern.
Some doctors have no problem prescribing the hormones that prevent periods continuously, stopping them maybe once a year to allow a period to happen. In fact I saw a drug commercial the other day advertizing just such a pill (I think it was for 6 months or something like that).
Seems to me that this process would be used by females where getting her period is not desired e.g., prostitutes and perhaps astronauts are 2 that come to mind.
Some doctors have no problem prescribing the hormones that prevent periods continuously, stopping them maybe once a year to allow a period to happen. In fact I saw a drug commercial the other day advertizing just such a pill (I think it was for 6 months or something like that).
Seems to me that this process would be used by females where getting her period is not desired e.g., prostitutes and perhaps astronauts are 2 that come to mind.
You are eating ho pussy left and right and now you wonder if licking your fingers will kill you because it tastes different.
What are you going to do when you are face down in the muff and it tastes "different"?
Most providers are more careful than you. They give you a taste of their body fluids and avoid yours. Except the skanks working the piers.
What are you going to do when you are face down in the muff and it tastes "different"?
Most providers are more careful than you. They give you a taste of their body fluids and avoid yours. Except the skanks working the piers.
