Inflation!

[genius]

Strictly anecdotal, but I've witnessed a few recessionary cycles in my time and noticed an interesting hobby phenomenon. Just before the economy goes bust the asking price of providers, especially those on the lower end of the spectrum of sophistication, skyrockets. Almost like squarrels gathering nuts before winter.

Recently I noticed the asking price of a few urban providers approached the lower end of donations requested by high end escorts. Last time I witnessed such a phenomenon was just prior to the 08-09 financial crises. Then after the crash prices steeply dip until they level off slightly higher than pre-crash rates. Or service offerings get fragmented into short stay, half hour and full hour options.

Remember a time when as a rule at an incall the only option was an hour? Fast houses were named accordingly because that is the only thing they offered- a quick nut. If you finished early at a regular incall location, or with outcall, that was your problem, not the providers. Those were the days.

Obviously this observation will not fetch me a Nobel Prize in economics, but I thought it interesting as others speak of inflation.

Regards,

Pops

I wonder if this is as reliable as the long skirt/short skirt association?

Anyway, IMHO what you are seeing is probably more "like squarrels gathering nuts before winter" for the same reason; both at the peak of the nut season, acorns are dropping all over the place and are everywhere, and at the peak of an economy money is everywhere.

I've been around for a lot more than "a few recessionary cycles" and I've seen, as the old joke goes—these types of indicators have reliably predicted 10 out of the last 5 recessions.

 

[mugi]

With respect to inflation in the Flushing area related to the Asian massage, et cetera market, in no way has it rose commensurate with pricing for other services, amenities, food, clothing, gas, transportation, housing and the like.

For example in and around the very early 1980's, when Koreans opened up shops (prior to the Chinese invasion) in and around Northern Boulevard and Queens Boulevard from Long Island City east to below Bayside, 1 hour massage was set at $30 to $40 and additional services were of course extra and never below $30 or $40 for a happy ending and full service always around $100.

Granted, you did get a very good massage and table shower, sometimes dry sauna and steam and you were being pampered much more and treated like a king and you were surely there for the full hour. You could cut off the massage at any point and get into the real reason for being there and you would never be kicked out before your sacred hour was over. But it cost you $130 or $140.

And, amazingly, you can still find that price almost 40 years later. The price was going up commensurately with everything around it until the Chinese entered the market. They opened up little popcorn parlors and had desperate girls working massage at prices resembling probably the 1940's, 1950's, 1960's. I watched it all unfold when I dated and was close to the owners and they were absolutely flabbergasted at the utter audacity of the undercutting to a 1 hour massage for $15 or $20.

This area is still a bargain, for sure.

 

[popeye]

Truly the Flushing Queens inflation distortion chamber is a marvel to behold. Makes me wonder about the cost of living for the immigrant community in expensive cities like NYC.

I've known women in Flushing that offered me mistress level service at the same donation for a decade. Many I've known through the years have retired In comfort all while supporting their families. A few have kids they've put through school, family medical emergencies they sponsored for a relative in need, etc. You know- life expanses!

In some cases I would not see a lady for a year or more before returning and would still be expected to pay the same low donation.

While I struggle to make ends meet these ladies tell me of their spending on family back home, gambling debts, and luxury purchases. My mind struggles to fathom what financial secrets affords them a decent lifestyle with I view as meager earnings.

In my observation Flushing providers are living proof of the adage it isn't how much you make but how you spend it.

Regards,

Pops

 

[mugi]

Truly the Flushing Queens inflation distortion chamber is a marvel to behold. Makes me wonder about the cost of living for the immigrant community in expensive cities like NYC.

I've known women in Flushing that offered me mistress level service at the same donation for a decade. Many I've known through the years have retired In comfort all while supporting their families. A few have kids they've put through school, family medical emergencies they sponsored for a relative in need, etc. You know- life expanses!

In some cases I would not see a lady for a year or more before returning and would still be expected to pay the same low donation.

While I struggle to make ends meet these ladies tell me of their spending on family back home, gambling debts, and luxury purchases. My mind struggles to fathom what financial secrets affords them a decent lifestyle with I view as meager earnings.

In my observation Flushing providers are living proof of the adage it isn't how much you make but how you spend it.

Regards,

Pops

Thank you, Pops, once again for a nice piece of writing.

I guess the obvious answer to their financial strength is paying a mere fraction of their earnings in taxes and possibly being entitled to much governmental assistance, medical coverage, exemptions, discounted schooling, free school lunches, possibly food stamps and taking full advantage of everything that Uncle Sam and the state has to offer. (I have been told quite frankly by them about their maneuvers.)

At the same time, receiving cash with little or no overhead (using their apartment or a table cubicle) and even though their prices have not gone up in a very long time, in fact dropped, I can see a street girl pocketing cash daily equaling a six figure income, rivaling many legitimate people working for a company with a Master's degree, possibly paying off student loans and paying a hefty portion in taxes.

All that being said, this little section of New York is a phenomenon envied by mongers in other states. And believe it or not, many parts of Asia are the same if not higher except in impoverished areas. Many guys from the states have vacationed (eh-hem) in Asian nations and originally found mongering so cheap compared to the US dollar and started spoiling the girls and then returning to the US with the girls all the more wise to their potential, leaving the locals the task of dealing with girls that suddenly developed a taste for champagne and disdain for the beer they have been drinking all of their lives.

Peace, Brothers.

 

[genius]

Say they do 10 customers a day at rock bottom price of $60 per. Assuming 5 days off every 28 days for period that comes to 180K/year. Cash. There are BC pills that can reduce periods to once every 6 months or so if they want more working days.

 

[popeye]

Excuse the rant, but I have nowhere else to share my thoughts on the hobby. In my never-ending quest for new carnal adventure I ventured outside my comfort zone: non-Asian providers. What I’ve encountered in terms of pricing and offerings is crazy! See two examples as follows:

Afro-am provider with advertised age of 25: offering half-hour full service for 200 in the hood! Per the pics is very attractive and if polished can easily pass for a high-end provider, but she is in the hood- even if the area is experiencing gentrification. When I decline is willing to offer her “friend” for 120 for half-hour. Also has pricing for bare service if I am inclined- only offered to regulars. Yet I am not a regular! Obviously, I decline.

European provider with advertised age of 26: offering an hour GFE service for 200 in working class predominately white neighborhood. Get this, overnight is $400! Offering all bare service in any orifice you are willing to use. She is terribly attractive with Scandinavian features that include blond-almost white hair and porcelain skin if pictures are accurate. Based on pics she could easily brush up and be a high-end provider. As tempted as I am this too gets a pass.

The willingness to offer bare service in any orifice to a stranger who you haven’t met is something that spooks me. Also, the asking price of the hoodrat for similar service offered by the more “mainstream” type provider continues to amaze me. Girls in the hood, fat girls of all stripes, butter faced girls, and fugly girls used to be a bargain! Something is way off about value for money spent, and I suspect it has to do with consumers and what they are spending. Prices are all over the place.

Every time I attempt to venture outside of my comfort zone, private AMP providers and mature European ladies, I get spooked. I feel much more comfortable with a provider I’ve developed a relationship with offering me an ever-expanding menu organically over time than what is being offered out there. STDs still exist!

Regards,

Pops

PS- I avoided the Spanish houses for years because I find their service too rushed. That is, unless you are able to get beyond the language barrier.

 

[fastfred1943]

Saw a article that claims if you bend your middle finger down to your palm, Mark the spot. The distance from the tip of your middle finger to the spot is the same as your penis length. Happy measuring.

 

[Nehoma]

Saw a article that claims if you bend your middle finger down to your palm, Mark the spot. The distance from the tip of your middle finger to the spot is the same as your penis length. Happy measuring.

That's an old one...but why would someone need to do that to know the size of their own cock?

 

[yonkershobbyist]

That's an old one...but why would someone need to do that to know the size of their own cock?

I actually LOL'ed at that - then I tried it and it's not true.

 

[Yankeefan777]

Excuse the rant, but I have nowhere else to share my thoughts on the hobby. In my never-ending quest for new carnal adventure I ventured outside my comfort zone: non-Asian providers. What I’ve encountered in terms of pricing and offerings is crazy! See two examples as follows:

Afro-am provider with advertised age of 25: offering half-hour full service for 200 in the hood! Per the pics is very attractive and if polished can easily pass for a high-end provider, but she is in the hood- even if the area is experiencing gentrification. When I decline is willing to offer her “friend” for 120 for half-hour. Also has pricing for bare service if I am inclined- only offered to regulars. Yet I am not a regular! Obviously, I decline.

European provider with advertised age of 26: offering an hour GFE service for 200 in working class predominately white neighborhood. Get this, overnight is $400! Offering all bare service in any orifice you are willing to use. She is terribly attractive with Scandinavian features that include blond-almost white hair and porcelain skin if pictures are accurate. Based on pics she could easily brush up and be a high-end provider. As tempted as I am this too gets a pass.

The willingness to offer bare service in any orifice to a stranger who you haven’t met is something that spooks me. Also, the asking price of the hoodrat for similar service offered by the more “mainstream” type provider continues to amaze me. Girls in the hood, fat girls of all stripes, butter faced girls, and fugly girls used to be a bargain! Something is way off about value for money spent, and I suspect it has to do with consumers and what they are spending. Prices are all over the place.

Every time I attempt to venture outside of my comfort zone, private AMP providers and mature European ladies, I get spooked. I feel much more comfortable with a provider I’ve developed a relationship with offering me an ever-expanding menu organically over time than what is being offered out there. STDs still exist!

Regards,

Pops

PS- I avoided the Spanish houses for years because I find their service too rushed. That is, unless you are able to get beyond the language barrier.

I’ve been afraid of going to a Spanish house I feel like It’s sooo sketchy there’s a huge chance I get robbed or get arrested

 

[Nehoma]

I’ve been afraid of going to a Spanish house I feel like It’s sooo sketchy there’s a huge chance I get robbed or get arrested

I feel your pain but that can happen almost anywhere when you indulge in this hobby. It's always the chance you take, especially with the Spanish houses because they tend to set up for the most part in sketchy areas. I have been to a few of the establishments, and like you felt uneasy, and luckily everything worked out ok. Roll the dice and good luck!

 

[out of control]

There are quiet established Spanish houses that have been around for 15 years or more price has not changed in 15 years. 100 for the half one pop. 150 for the hour 2 pops. Some of the woman are model quality. These places do not advertise you need a member to introduce you.

 

[Yankeefan777]

There are quiet established Spanish houses that have been around for 15 years or more price has not changed in 15 years. 100 for the half one pop. 150 for the hour 2 pops. Some of the woman are model quality. These places do not advertise you need a member to introduce you.

I gotta get more info on em! Thank you!