I'll keep this one for myself thank you!

#3
......The keepers shall go unmentioned here until they reach their respective expiration dates
Never saw it put in those terms — but absolutely perfect way of putting it.

Alas, the same applies to other types of great finds (escorts, AMP girls, Sw's) whose phones get blown up by lurkers after a good review on UG.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#4
Is it really that bad that we need to keep the good ones to ourselves?

Correct me if I'm wrong because I want to open this up for discussion, but the main reason to hold back information is because other guys will call her and you don't want the competition?

So say you find someone you really click with, it could be on SA, an AMP, a junkie who does car dates.
You want repeat visits, you want her available when you want to see her, so you hold off on reviews so other guys won't call her and cut into your time?

Or is it you really like her and don't want to read about other guys on here soiling her?

What's the main motivation?
Go.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#5
A few comments of my own.

It wasn't always like this on UG. In fact I made my bones here, as many of the old timers can attest to by constantly reviewing anyone I saw good or bad.
If more guys saw the girl or visited the AMP so be it, I was supplying good Intel. The more guys who visited the places I did and reported back only strengthened my rep for being honest and detailed.
Other guys would follow suit.

But now we are worried about "Lurkers" and "White Knights" fucking things up.
Shit, it sounds like a bad version of Game of Thrones.

There were always Lurkers, there were always White Knights.
So the way to deal with them was to either move on to another girl...
Or....
If you really liked a girl and wanted to make sure she would have time for you then maybe treat her a little better and have her want to see you.

I guess the problem with #2 is a lot of guys have the attitude that all these girls are Slores and why should I treat them with any respect or theses guys simply have no game whatsoever. So their only choice is to not review and hope no one else finds her.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#6
Never saw it put in those terms — but absolutely perfect way of putting it.

Alas, the same applies to other types of great finds (escorts, AMP girls, Sw's) whose phones get blown up by lurkers after a good review on UG.
I hear you Genius.
The one time for me that sticks out was about five years ago I found and AMP on Merrick Rd in Merrick. A hot girl named Lilly who did bbbj cim on first visit, covered FS on the second.
But after my detailed reviews I could never get into the place again. It was ridiculous, I would pass mongers on the stairs going back up or down. She was always busy. "Come back in one hour, Lilly busy now".

It was annoying, and it made me realize how many lurkers were in here because there were no other reviews after mine.
 
#7
Good question
I think to properly expound on this one needs to clarify what type of monger he is..
- dedicated to seeking out the professional companion who advertises and is reviewed on the more popular sites, including this one
- the monger who dedicates his time on a SA type of board, where a successful hook up is like a roll of the dice and much tine is invested in research and negotiation
- The one who goes for SW

I fall into category one and for the most part have always shared reviews unless the girl requested I do not.. Most of the time I would have found her via a review therefore this can be moot

In the case of an ATF one needs to be realistic thinking if I keep her to myself maybe no other monger can impede on my time, but have to face the facts that she is a pro and the hookup is purely a business transaction- Unless you are paying her more or doing something way over and above, one is not the only monger in the sea..

So why be selfish and not share a review... I look at it as if I write a good review which brings her new business, she may just remember that for our next meet and offer me a discount, a few extra minutes etc...
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#8
Interesting points @trader1 .

I guess where my opinion differs is that I don't differentiate between the SA monger and the guy who only seeks out 'professional" girls.

In my eyes most of the girls on SA are for the most part now professional escorts who have migrated over to SA with the closure of some of the traditional sites.

That said there does seem to be a lot more fraud on SA and these guys do have to spend a little more time and energy weeding out the fakes.
So it does save the readers of that thread a lot of time to know which ones not to call.
 
#9
Interesting points @trader1 .

I guess where my opinion differs is that I don't differentiate between the SA monger and the guy who only seeks out 'professional" girls.

In my eyes most of the girls on SA are for the most part now professional escorts who have migrated over to SA with the closure of some of the traditional sites.

That said there does seem to be a lot more fraud on SA and these guys do have to spend a little more time and energy weeding out the fakes.
So it does save the readers of that thread a lot of time to know which ones not to call.
Just read this thread. Here's my take on it. I always review pros i give back cause I've had good Karma giving back. I would think I've given more good intel than I've gotten back. But I have gotten some back for sure. So it doesn't matter if shes a pro and not utr I will drop her info.

SA I was different. On SA lot of rawdogging is going on. So myself I would not talk about girls I'm smashing unless I'm done with them.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#10
Just read this thread. Here's my take on it. I always review pros i give back cause I've had good Karma giving back. I would think I've given more good intel than I've gotten back. But I have gotten some back for sure. So it doesn't matter if shes a pro and not utr I will drop her info.

SA I was different. On SA lot of rawdogging is going on. So myself I would not talk about girls I'm smashing unless I'm done with them.
Thanks for your post.

So I guess that's another question:
Are you less likely to post a review if you are hitting it raw?
 
#11
.....So why be selfish and not share a review... I look at it as if I write a good review which brings her new business, she may just remember that for our next meet and offer me a discount, a few extra minutes etc...
I do not do SA for various reasons — the principle one is I simply can not invest the time and effort to carve out blocks of time away from my SO w/o raising suspicions. So I monger with escorts, AMPs and SW's (although not SW's in years).

That said, and specifically in my case and perhaps other UG posters, "selfish" and "brings her new business" is an oversimplification and can be incorrect. The selfish part, IMHO, is correct in the case of lurkers.

There have been many cases ( > 5 that I can specifically recall off the top of my head) where the posting of my review of a girl , especially those that were hired by management to be legit, were quickly fired when management became suspicious of a leap in the number of customers asking for her after my review. In other cases the place had mongers lining up in a very non-discreet manner raising suspicions of landlord, neighbors (both commercial and residential) and ending up with the place being quickly shut down.
 
#12
A fast house everyone basically gets full service but at many amps a provider may offer more ( dfk, daty, bbj) to some and not all of her customers and why reviews at amps aren’t always spot on.Also some guys after reading a review think full service may happen at a amp on the first visit and have no patience.
 
#13
I stay quiet most likely because i want to keep them to myself especially if they're new to the game(sa).

For example i have one girl mid 20s from me east area that host from her apt and lets me do whatever as long as sex is with a rubber including anal or whatever else and the damage is whatever i want to give her usually i leave her 120$ on her counter and she's perfectly happy with it.

I have another that's in her early thirty's that i can see once a week and let's me do whatever and i give her what i want which is also 120$ ,

I have another 21 year old Westbury college chic I've had for about a year i only give 150$

And I recently had this 21 year old college girl that was so innocent with the body of Serena Williams a perfect ass and thick thighs which i only gave 120 but required condom for sex, i was her first and last on S.A. she was only on for a week and said its not for her and just was curious.

But if its a high volume girl and there's really no chemistry i will pass along info.

And also because some dudes here are worse then bitches and have big mouths and will go running back to the girl and fuck up my flow.
 
#14
My main gripe is I wish the board wasn’t public and you can only view anything with a login. It would change everything.
personally I look at everyone here as a brother in arms even if a disagreement arises we are all in the same boat really looking out for each other. Lurkers do nothing for those of us here but benefit from our intel, reviews and experiences.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#15
My main gripe is I wish the board wasn’t public and you can only view anything with a login. It would change everything.
personally I look at everyone here as a brother in arms even if a disagreement arises we are all in the same boat really looking out for each other. Lurkers do nothing for those of us here but benefit from our intel, reviews and experiences.
But even then, there is nothing stopping someone from getting a login, logging in every day but then not contributing.
 
#16
But even then, there is nothing stopping someone from getting a login, logging in every day but then not contributing.
this is true and there is no easy or logical way to do it but only able to see content once you reach a certain contribution rate. Unless there was a paid business model.
 
#17
I totally agree. What is to gain by sharing information on a girl that you like.

If it is a one time deal or someone you dont think you will visit again then great share.If she is bad who is to know just by your experience.

Some girls have different taste in men also.

I also have had a girlfriend who was an amp a year ago. It was hard to see guys getting bbfs when she was totally denying that anyone else got this service. I cant always believe these mongers but why would they lie? You feel like your special but know these girls want money and it seems that bbbj or bbfs will get the guys coming back.

Eventually it even gets dull and the excitement is gone and time to move on.

In the meantime you are with a girl who was getting dumped in possibly 5 times a day. You just dont know. So this Is why i dont like post my experiences

..hoping this gets posted Billy. I know for some reason you refuse my post.
The keepers shall go unmentioned here until they reach their respective expiration dates
 
#18
I totally agree. What is to gain by sharing information on a girl that you like.

If it is a one time deal or someone you dont think you will visit again then great share.If she is bad who is to know just by your experience.

Some girls have different taste in men also.

I also have had a girlfriend who was an amp a year ago. It was hard to see guys getting bbfs when she was totally denying that anyone else got this service. I cant always believe these mongers but why would they lie? You feel like your special but know these girls want money and it seems that bbbj or bbfs will get the guys coming back.

Eventually it even gets dull and the excitement is gone and time to move on.

In the meantime you are with a girl who was getting dumped in possibly 5 times a day. You just dont know. So this Is why i dont like post my experiences

..hoping this gets posted Billy. I know for some reason you refuse my post.
You are the exact person that just really has no place on this board. Why be hear and why even post this? You either want to help others out in this hobby, or go away. Go see a girl, and keep it to yourself. It just that is not what this board is about. Its a community that you want to help others out. If your other posts didnt get through, you either broke a rule, or it was a useless post, especially for your first post.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#19
I totally agree. What is to gain by sharing information on a girl that you like.

If it is a one time deal or someone you dont think you will visit again then great share.If she is bad who is to know just by your experience.

Some girls have different taste in men also.

I also have had a girlfriend who was an amp a year ago. It was hard to see guys getting bbfs when she was totally denying that anyone else got this service. I cant always believe these mongers but why would they lie? You feel like your special but know these girls want money and it seems that bbbj or bbfs will get the guys coming back.

Eventually it even gets dull and the excitement is gone and time to move on.

In the meantime you are with a girl who was getting dumped in possibly 5 times a day. You just dont know. So this Is why i dont like post my experiences

..hoping this gets posted Billy. I know for some reason you refuse my post.
Because as a newbie you kept asking questions and we want guys to contribute first.
All your posts were basically asking guys if they had bbfs with Angela from the Plainview Old Country Road amp.
Or if they had anal sex with Angela.
So based on what you wrote above I'm guessing Angela was your girlfriend and you were trying to get a handle on how many guys were dumping loads in her.
 
#20
Recently I have had some providers request that I do not do any reviews. It's a double edge sword for some of them. A review would bring in more customers, but also bring in the rude and cheap guys.

This was brought to my attention few years ago. There was a provider at a R&T AMP who would do BBJs for her favorite customers. Anyone who asked for one was always turned down. If she liked you enough she would do it on her own without you asking. One customer wrote a review and she was swamped with new customer appointments, who would get mad when she refused to do a BBJ and sometimes leave without tipping. She was also worried about the boss finding out.

While good reviews can cause issues for the providers, I think the negative reviews are very helpful for us mongers. They tell us what places and providers to avoid.

I saw one review site that required a new user to submit a review first before being accepted and allowed into the site. But that does not prevent someone from making up a review just to get on.

I doubt there is anyway to get rid of cheap rude mongers who lurk and think that if I got a BBJ for 100, they can get one for 40. It's because of them that some of the really good providers want to remain UTR.

Sorry for the ramble. Just my thoughts on the topic.
 
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