I can feel the disappointment…
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You have the first post, I started it by moving posts from another thread.
You have the first post, I started it by moving posts from another thread.
Buried in the Long Island Street thread from a year ago there is a convo btw a few of us with @genius leading the way on the short life span of providers now. He really breaks it down well.
Exploring some of the ad sites will show you the lack of talent & the lack of reviews here shows you the lack of talent as well.
We’ve seen girls who would be independent on ad sites or in strip clubs turn to Seeking Arrangements with unreal expectations & prices. It seems many of you are expressing how that site and talent bay is even waning. Combined with sites like Onlyfans and other realms of online systems girls can get cash flow from I often wonder what the future of this game looks like.
While we all express concerns about feeding things, most providers unfortunately have substance abuse problems or are from extremely poverty or crime ridden conditions. That’s just the name of the game. I’m a younger guy and envy all of you who got to enjoy the golden age of SW and adult shops in NYC.
Exploring some of the ad sites will show you the lack of talent & the lack of reviews here shows you the lack of talent as well.
We’ve seen girls who would be independent on ad sites or in strip clubs turn to Seeking Arrangements with unreal expectations & prices. It seems many of you are expressing how that site and talent bay is even waning. Combined with sites like Onlyfans and other realms of online systems girls can get cash flow from I often wonder what the future of this game looks like.
While we all express concerns about feeding things, most providers unfortunately have substance abuse problems or are from extremely poverty or crime ridden conditions. That’s just the name of the game. I’m a younger guy and envy all of you who got to enjoy the golden age of SW and adult shops in NYC.
Once after a massage, I asked a provider if she wanted to have some fun. She quietly whispered "This isn't fun, it's never fun" then her face instantly transformed into the fakest "sexy look" I had ever seen.
I gave her every bill in my pocket, she started crying and I got the hell out of there. I didn't hobby for five years after that and just started again when I signed here a few months ago.
After reading your post, I'm done for at least another five. I'm no white knight and I don't judge anybody, but I'm done for the next five.
I gave her every bill in my pocket, she started crying and I got the hell out of there. I didn't hobby for five years after that and just started again when I signed here a few months ago.
After reading your post, I'm done for at least another five. I'm no white knight and I don't judge anybody, but I'm done for the next five.
I hear you…. It makes you think twice about what’s going on and the girls’ motivations for doing it. I recently had one girl from SA be a little too honest. Said she only does it for the money and would much rather be having sex with guys her own age or to whom she is genuinely attracted. I think for the most part both parties know why the other is doing this…. But it’s a bit tough when the false cloak of attraction, etc. is removed.
Not sure what to do about that. It does get me to back off a bit, but not sure it’ll be 5 years.
Not sure what to do about that. It does get me to back off a bit, but not sure it’ll be 5 years.
And, practically speaking, I find it a buzzkill to be with a woman who is struggling, sick, in agony, or otherwise absorbed in negativity, unless I have capacity to help in some way.
Given a choice, it is a far better experience to spend time with a healthy, happy woman who is satisfied with her ststion in life and thriving.
We are mixing with each other, and aside from the sexuality involved, I don’t need any lingering bad or nauseous vibes to disturb me after leaving.
Given a choice, it is a far better experience to spend time with a healthy, happy woman who is satisfied with her ststion in life and thriving.
We are mixing with each other, and aside from the sexuality involved, I don’t need any lingering bad or nauseous vibes to disturb me after leaving.
My believe that the girls with drug habits are the cheap SW or car dates or even have handlers putting them in hotel rooms and feeding them Drugs this the qv is born . High end girls with no drug habits are usually on high end sites and their prices are for an hour only and usually start at $300 and that is why mongers are attracted to the girls with habits and ofcourse the Asian AmP which are not cheap either . To each his own
As someone who’s dabbled in all prices I agree heavily. However there are great experiences of pros not ridden by drugs sub $300 (Shy and Sophia Belle come to mind).
Also it becomes a frequency of addiction at some point even if your getting enough NP4P in civilian life, sometimes the thrill of this world starts itching and you need the fix. In my personal experience if at my extreme, monger 3-4 times a week the best deals in SW or cheap car date ads become the most suitable option without going nuts on the weekly expense. I have found that often more than not a 40-60 car date is better than a 120-160 room date with a girl that is pretty much a SW quality decaying in a motel.
I’ve tried my best in recent years to keep intel in the various strolls on the island and where the best street talent is often developing a friendly relationship with the girls - it goes along way in the long run. A lot of my experience was heightened in studying Genius stories, rules and way of maneuvering when he was in the SW world.
This winter I know I’m already going into a new phase of mongering. While I’ve had a few AMP experiences it has never been a go to habit. After studying the Flushing thread I think I’m confident enough to have fun and dive in.
@mugi brings up a great point of a term I believe is called ‘Sexual Transmutation’ where karmically you take on the energy of the person you have intercourse in the spiritual order of the universe. This is something that has struck me even in my person life. With the Pros I see I prefer a BBJ for this reason as it’s less of a intimate experience with the girl. Often more than not I have 2 beers in or smoked a little herb if FS is the outcome.
Also it becomes a frequency of addiction at some point even if your getting enough NP4P in civilian life, sometimes the thrill of this world starts itching and you need the fix. In my personal experience if at my extreme, monger 3-4 times a week the best deals in SW or cheap car date ads become the most suitable option without going nuts on the weekly expense. I have found that often more than not a 40-60 car date is better than a 120-160 room date with a girl that is pretty much a SW quality decaying in a motel.
I’ve tried my best in recent years to keep intel in the various strolls on the island and where the best street talent is often developing a friendly relationship with the girls - it goes along way in the long run. A lot of my experience was heightened in studying Genius stories, rules and way of maneuvering when he was in the SW world.
This winter I know I’m already going into a new phase of mongering. While I’ve had a few AMP experiences it has never been a go to habit. After studying the Flushing thread I think I’m confident enough to have fun and dive in.
@mugi brings up a great point of a term I believe is called ‘Sexual Transmutation’ where karmically you take on the energy of the person you have intercourse in the spiritual order of the universe. This is something that has struck me even in my person life. With the Pros I see I prefer a BBJ for this reason as it’s less of a intimate experience with the girl. Often more than not I have 2 beers in or smoked a little herb if FS is the outcome.
I am connected on Facebook/Twitter [my monger profile connected to a Google Voice phone] with a few providers "IRL" profiles and such. What starts out as an alternative way to stay in touch when they lose their phones or have to get a new payment/ burner phone number i have a way to consistently stay in touch to arrange meetups.
I'm mostly staying in touch with the ones that have been successful in getting through rehab but are still having trouble making civilian life and being cash poor because of their previous legal/ drug issues. Many have been reviewed by me hear on Utopia in the past, but now that they're not still escorting "officially" I'm more like an on call sugar daddy helping when i can.
So anyways, "Hannah" her original escort name [not her real name], is one such and takes to posting about how she's changed and the bad decisions she's made. We both ignore I'm still a bad decision that she hits up from time to time when she needs money.... but she recently brought my attention to a Facebook group that fits this thread
"My Struggle Is Real" this guy does on the street interviews with the girls and how they are swept up by drugs and become street walkers and such.
I'm mostly staying in touch with the ones that have been successful in getting through rehab but are still having trouble making civilian life and being cash poor because of their previous legal/ drug issues. Many have been reviewed by me hear on Utopia in the past, but now that they're not still escorting "officially" I'm more like an on call sugar daddy helping when i can.
So anyways, "Hannah" her original escort name [not her real name], is one such and takes to posting about how she's changed and the bad decisions she's made. We both ignore I'm still a bad decision that she hits up from time to time when she needs money.... but she recently brought my attention to a Facebook group that fits this thread
"My Struggle Is Real" this guy does on the street interviews with the girls and how they are swept up by drugs and become street walkers and such.