How to lose a customer and other acts of disrespect

genius · May 3, 2020

I wouldn't be able to call the Broadway star because I wouldn't have her personal # which shouldn't be surprising as no sane successful performer would give such out.

However if I wrote her a letter and emailed it to her (say via her website), as I imagine many fans do, with my name, I would think she would return a sincere personally signed email addressed to me with my name telling me how happy she was to hear from me and that I enjoyed her performance and attach a link to maybe photos and list of future performances — at least that is what I would have the person in charge of answering such correspondence do who is in charge of returning such sincere personally signed replies to fans.

This is what successful business people do.

Sophia Belle · May 3, 2020

Let me say this... this is a very unique business ... but it’s also very personal... but think of it this way... y’all mostly have 1 wife and a few side pieces... now look at it from my side... I’m not married but I have a steady 5 sugar daddies, 75 boyfriends and then a good 75-100 side pieces.... can you imagine trying to keep up?? Like I said, I do my best but we all have off days... it’s just a thing... we aren’t perfect, we have personal issues, we have personal responsibilities, and then we have personal business responsibilities... I try to shine in every position but I’ll take an “A” for effort on some days!

Sophia Belle · May 3, 2020

genius said:

I wouldn't be able to call the Broadway star because I wouldn't have her personal # which shouldn't be surprising as no sane successful performer would give such out.

However if I wrote her a letter and emailed it to her (say via her website), as I imagine many fans do, with my name, I would think she would return a sincere personally signed email addressed to me with my name telling me how happy she was to hear from me and that I enjoyed her performance and attach a link to maybe photos and list of future performances — at least that is what I would have the person in charge of answering such correspondence do who is in charge of returning such sincere personally signed replies to fans.

This is what successful business people do.

well I’m not hiring anyone to do my correspondence... you get me all the time... take it or leave it

Unown · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

Something else I want to add. If I have seen a provider a number of times, and each of those times I left feeling great with a big smile on may face, then I should be able to forgive them the one time it wasn't up to snuff. If the quality continues to go down then I would rethink the situation. But if I had many great visits, one so-so time should not wipe all that out. Same with texting. If I had many great phone / text sessions and then one bad one, I think I would let it go.

Haspel7 · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

Let me say this... this is a very unique business ... but it’s also very personal... but think of it this way... y’all mostly have 1 wife and a few side pieces... now look at it from my side... I’m not married but I have a steady 5 sugar daddies, 75 boyfriends and then a good 75-100 side pieces.... can you imagine trying to keep up?? Like I said, I do my best but we all have off days... it’s just a thing... we aren’t perfect, we have personal issues, we have personal responsibilities, and then we have personal business responsibilities... I try to shine in every position but I’ll take an “A” for effort on some days!

Well stated and great insight.

Chuck One · May 3, 2020

I saw nothing wrong with the provider's message to you. In general - and this goes for all sorts of digitally written communication - don't read into it. As long as she gives you what you like while you are together. That she acknowledged you is more than sufficient.

genius · May 3, 2020

Unown said:

Looks like I wasn't clear enough on my post( #3 this thread).

IMHO, trader1 is the one with the issue — not the "particular person"; he was the one confusing a business connection with a personal connection.

Note my last line of that post:
Now I guess you will need to start a search again for someone to pay to provide you with more then just the emotionless interaction.

It was meant to be sardonic — he will find another escort and establish what he considers a personal connection that will last until she loses him as a customer because of some, (what he considers) slight, but what I consider just a slippage in good business practice, i.e., I said "She got a little lazy, or maybe distracted or whatever and stepped out of character for a moment".

I considered myself a good businessman (if you define that as making a lot of money for myself, my employees and my stockholders) by always having a personal connection with my customers, remembering their kids names (oh how's Joey doing at MIT?), sending a gift if they had a baby ( of course my assistant did that and made sure I knew what it was) and of course supplying a good product.

But these were not my friends; they were my customers. When I retired my relationships with them ended.

They got a nice letter thanking them for being loyal customers over the years, what a pleasure it was doing business with them and their new contact at my company is Joe Blow, who I assured them "will give you the superior service you expect."

BTW, I didn't do personal connection making with those customers where it didn't matter; if I was the lowest bidder I got the job and if I wasn't the lowest bidder I didn't — there were only so many hours in the day so time wisely where it mattered.

Leobloom · May 3, 2020

trader1 said:

I understand the psychology of the monger who is willing to expose a bit more of his personality or life to get a better experience. It's my own approach. But, as others have or will observe, it's a job for the ladies. Also, with texting, we don't know what is really going on in someone else's life. She may have been in the first circle of hell when your text landed, so she may may have undertaken some instant triage. I give people the benefit of the doubt, especially these days. So maybe you took it too personally.

Uniquelyme · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

Let me say this... this is a very unique business ... but it’s also very personal... but think of it this way... y’all mostly have 1 wife and a few side pieces... now look at it from my side... I’m not married but I have a steady 5 sugar daddies, 75 boyfriends and then a good 75-100 side pieces.... can you imagine trying to keep up?? Like I said, I do my best but we all have off days... it’s just a thing... we aren’t perfect, we have personal issues, we have personal responsibilities, and then we have personal business responsibilities... I try to shine in every position but I’ll take an “A” for effort on some days!

75 boyfriends???!!!

Say what??

Some guys are looking for more than a physical connection. I wouldnt feel no type of way but it is what it is.

Sophia Belle · May 3, 2020

@trader1 One more thing to consider on our part... personally, I put in a lot of effort to get to know my clients... I even become good friends with some... we hang out outside of the business and everything... I end up caring about their kids and lives... generally these are the “single” ones... but without fail, when they get a girlfriend, all of the sudden I get put on the back burner, I get dropped like a hot potato, and all the calls stop... whether for business or personal... up until she’s gone and then it’s like “oh I missed you”... like seriously?? So putting myself out there to become more than provider/monger just sets me up for disappointment... and my feelings get hurt... this happens more often than not in these situations... but truth is, I’m replaceable... so why take the risk sometimes... it’s easier to just be nice and not engage so I don’t get hurt, but for me that’s almost impossible... that’s obviously just my perspective and I’m not saying your friend is the same... but it’s at least something to consider.

Haspel7 · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

@trader1 One more thing to consider on our part... personally, I put in a lot of effort to get to know my clients... I even become good friends with some... we hang out outside of the business and everything... I end up caring about their kids and lives... generally these are the “single” ones... but without fail, when they get a girlfriend, all of the sudden I get put on the back burner, I get dropped like a hot potato, and all the calls stop... whether for business or personal... up until she’s gone and then it’s like “oh I missed you”... like seriously?? So putting myself out there to become more than provider/monger just sets me up for disappointment... and my feelings get hurt... this happens more often than not in these situations... but truth is, I’m replaceable... so why take the risk sometimes... it’s easier to just be nice and not engage so I don’t get hurt, but for me that’s almost impossible... that’s obviously just my perspective and I’m not saying your friend is the same... but it’s at least something to consider.

Correct mongers want providers to close their doors as they seek other opportunities.A client should care about a provider and be respectful but needs to understand her business is about pluralism not one individual client unless he offers her 7 figures to be all his-lol.

Uniquelyme · May 3, 2020

Haspel7 said:

7 figures my guy that is insane!!

pokler · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

@trader1 One more thing to consider on our part... personally, I put in a lot of effort to get to know my clients... I even become good friends with some... we hang out outside of the business and everything... I end up caring about their kids and lives... generally these are the “single” ones... but without fail, when they get a girlfriend, all of the sudden I get put on the back burner, I get dropped like a hot potato, and all the calls stop... whether for business or personal... up until she’s gone and then it’s like “oh I missed you”... like seriously?? So putting myself out there to become more than provider/monger just sets me up for disappointment... and my feelings get hurt... this happens more often than not in these situations... but truth is, I’m replaceable... so why take the risk sometimes... it’s easier to just be nice and not engage so I don’t get hurt, but for me that’s almost impossible... that’s obviously just my perspective and I’m not saying your friend is the same... but it’s at least something to consider.

And when you become good friends outside the business do you spot them the occasional free session? Even an average bartender knows the occasional drink is on the house for good customers.

trader1 · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

Sophia,
Consider yourself unique. Rarely, if ever, have I encountered a companion who would offer an experience with you both ‘on the field and off’

To put yourself out there for your friends and others take a lot. To be disappointed more often then not sucks. There are those who set the higher standard industry and you should be proud that you are one of them. My weakness and perhaps one of the reasons of starting this thread is my comparison of others to those like you.

Sophia Belle · May 3, 2020

pokler said:

Absolutely not... I don’t spot anyone a session just because we are friends...

I’m not selling alcohol- I’m selling myself... bartenders are stealing from their employer to make you feel good - I personally don’t think a thief is someone I want to be associated with... just sayin’

I’ll spot them pictures or videos... but not anything else. Business is business. And the moment a “freebie” is asked for, I’ll make it clear that’s not an option... move forward or move on!

kk630 · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

@trader1 One more thing to consider on our part... personally, I put in a lot of effort to get to know my clients... I even become good friends with some... we hang out outside of the business and everything... I end up caring about their kids and lives... generally these are the “single” ones... but without fail, when they get a girlfriend, all of the sudden I get put on the back burner, I get dropped like a hot potato, and all the calls stop... whether for business or personal... up until she’s gone and then it’s like “oh I missed you”... like seriously?? So putting myself out there to become more than provider/monger just sets me up for disappointment... and my feelings get hurt... this happens more often than not in these situations... but truth is, I’m replaceable... so why take the risk sometimes... it’s easier to just be nice and not engage so I don’t get hurt, but for me that’s almost impossible... that’s obviously just my perspective and I’m not saying your friend is the same... but it’s at least something to consider.

Says SO much about the person you are !!!!!!

pokler · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

Most bartenders who buy me drinks ARE the owners and if not I've got no doubt the owner encourages buying drinks for good customers since they know it's good biz.

You may be selling pussy and not drinks but it don't matter since the concept is the same.

Given that many of your clients are reading you gave the only safe answer possible .

Long Island Doc · May 3, 2020

Sophia Belle said:

^^^^^^^^^^^THAT^^^^^^^^^^At least she responded. Which would have been better, that quick response , or silence?.......

trigger · May 3, 2020

I treat everyone I see with respect and I usually get that in kind.Over the years, there have been a few that I would see on a somewhat regular basis, but I knew never to be emotionally attached. Ting and Helen from HicksvilIe come to mind. Im not looking for friendship because I have enough friends. It's a doctor-patient relationship where the provider is the professional and I need to get rid of my stress. That's how I see this interaction.

pokler · May 3, 2020

trigger said:

So if you did not get the incremental few words in a text , which triggered this thread, you would not freak out as some apparently do ?

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