Deidra's

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Zwoof

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Had a very unpleasant exchange at this long standing place. Here's how it went down. Now this place hasn't exactly been a local favorite (my opinion from being on this board for a few years) but i've been frequenting it again since the crackdown on AMPs. By frequenting, I mean about 2x a month for the past few months.

I show up unannounced and ask for Alison. She's an english broad that i've had a few times before. I have to give her credit for giving a great massage (for this type of place). She actually has a purpose to her massage and it is very relaxing. Her HJ skills are good too. She gets up on the table and pushes your legs to the side...like she's about to fuck you. Good hand action on the balls/taint area too. I pop and I am very relaxed. I get dressed and leave the standard $20 tip for a 30 min session and the fireworks start.

Alison proceeds to throw a hissy fit that she lives on tips and does not get paid otherwise. She tries to tell me that not only she but other girls have complained to me that I don't tip them enough. This last statement was entirely untrue. NO ONE has ever said anything to my face. She keeps going on and on that I shouldn't ask for her again!! I guess she's the most in demand MP worker around. I hold my ground and leave. She earned the $20 for today so I didn't take it back...but i should have out of principle.

Here's a few facts for you greedy white bitches at Deidra's:

1) Your house fee of $60 is high for this type of work. I'm not about to pay $100 for a hj.
2) Not one of you is more than a 6 in looks so you don't deserve a premium tip.
3) Not one of you so much as even takes your top off....and i'm not about to pay a king's ransom just to see any of your tits anyway.
4) If all of you were busy all day making $20 every half hour....you would make $80k/yr in CASH!!
5) Since you're NOT busy all day...i always seem to be the only mf'er there while they all sit around the place twiddling their thumbs...WHY WOULD YOU PISS OFF ONE OF YOUR ONLY REGULAR CUSTOMERS???!!!! If all of you really ARE busy all day making more money then you should all be driving BMWs.

This is just like giving money to charity. 99.9% of people don't give so instead of trying to get more people to give, charities harass the fuck out of the people who do and piss them off in the process.

So I hope all of you greedy white bitches print this out multiple times and SHOVE IT UP YOUR UNGRATEFUL CUNTS!!!

Honestly, how does this well known jack shack stay open when LE has cracked down everywhere else??

The Zomby Woof
 
paulbunyon

paulbunyon

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Yeah I was wondering about that lol

But to play devil's advocate regarding your post, you really think $80 for a decent massage and hj is standard? Maybe in 1985 it was. Could be the pricing is different up there in CT but in NNJ even in the AMPs the absolute lowest you'll find is $100. More like $120 minimum. And thats not to even mention the latina or white girl MPs which are always higher.
 
paulbunyon

paulbunyon

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Zwoof I got nothing against you but I can understand why she was so pissed with a $20 tip. Its not like she is waitressing or some other regular job where there are no risks about getting arrested.
Sure I wish that $80 jack shacks were common but I just don't think thats realistic today.
 
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Zwoof

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Bunyon,

This isn't a place with a table shower. It's just a nice hj place. I live on LI and if you check the threads there you will see that there is a movement to actually negotiate down from the 60/40 (hr/half hour) rates to 50/30. Granted, the LI places are skeezy AMPS but the service is the same and you can usually get their tops off.

Also, there were many hj only AMPs up here that were standard 40+20 for 30 mins. The cops shut all of these down. I guess Deidra's can try and negotiate a better tip because of this but I don't see a line of guys out of their door either. If anything, they should be happy with $20 in this economy. I'm sure some guys are cutting back.

Anywho, none of these girls is worth $100 for a hj so I wish them the best of luck.
 
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Zwoof

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....also don't overestimate the massage part. That's what the house fee is supposed to be for and we tip for the extras. I stand by my $20 tip since she did the bare minimum which is just jerk me off. She could earn more of a tip by doing more like taking her top off, etc.
 
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Maleagant

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Zwoof – I agree with you here. For 30 min, with no table shower, no top off, etc, that is certainly reasonable. But, in my opinion, whether you tipped enough is not the problem here, it is how she handled it. This is a customer service business, and if she was unhappy with your tip, the way I see it, she has a few options:
1) Get pissed and yell at you – this will only piss you off and is not going to get her more money
2) Politely ask you what she can do better - so that the next time you will tip her more
3) Do nothing – if she does nothing, she keeps a repeat customer and makes some decent cash
I am sure there are lots of ways this could have played out differently, but I guarantee that if she chose #2, everyone would have been happier.
Anyway, just my $0.02
 
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leftyg

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In Zwoof's defense, $60 for a half hour is steep....even in Manhattan for a typical R & T. That being said, I think a tip of $20-$40 is more typical for a $60-$70 standard 1 hour R & T. If you've got a groove with one lady, $20 is more on the short side.
 
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Zwoof

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Lefty,

I agree. However, I did not have a groove with this one. In fact, there was another girl here a couple of years ago that I used to tip $40 and she even negotiated...the right way...up to $60 and I paid it. Know why? She deserved it! She was by far the hottest chick there and the sweetest too. She had a nothing waist and these really nice bolt on D's. She would lift her shirt and let you suck on them and even pull her pants down and let you fondle and kiss her nice ass. I had a groove with her :). Sadly, she disappeared. Her name was Missy if anyone remembers her.

I think the $100-$120 hj veers into a no man's land. For $180-$200, I can go to Stamford and get laid at an AMP by a hotter Korean girl. I'm trying not to do FS though. I'll have my fun closer to home on LI at the fly by night AMPs.
 
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DoctorBeaver

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Zwoof,

What your original post fails to report and the question that is on my mind is what tip would have satisfied Allison, if not $20. I recently went to SBM in NYC and tipped $40 on top of a $220, fully nude session with a hot girl and she told me that was the usual tip she got, after a long discussion about tips. I can't say that $20 tip for the service rendered was unreasonable, but maybe she thinks that her service is offering a highly skilled handjob and she deserves more. Whatever the case, I assume she has lost you as a client and she now knows as much and perhaps wanted as much. Maybe she only wants to work for big tipping clients, which is her right. She has no obligation to provide service to you, whether you tip what she wants or not. This is a free market MP system, you are free to leave and not go back and she is free to tell you go look for a HJ elsewhere. There is beauty in this freedom.

I would just move on.
 
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desilove

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What the girl did was rude and unproffessional i totaly agree..But I used to work at D's 10 yrs ago and no matter how long the massage is for we only got $7 commission so tech she profited $27 for your session. That has nothing to do with you and again what Al did was uncalled for. My standard tip there was $60-$100, maybe if she tweaked her personality a little more she might get a better tip.

I actually stopped in there to say hello a few wks ago while visiting friends in FFLD and the place and how its run is far diff than when I was there. When D was there herself the place was more sensual, we had to wear the black leotards, w/ stockings and heels. We also had her mangy pups running around all day barking too.

All I am trying to say is although she was wrong how she spoke to you, we never did get a fair cut of the actual fee.
 
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Zwoof

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Dr BeaverLove,

What a combo! However, I digress. I did try and ask her what tip she was looking for. She deflected though. She also told me that she gets NONE of the house fee. She led me out of the door and there was another girl there, Jamie, whom I have used recently as well and Alison made a comment to her to the effect that Jamie had said something too and she was sticking up for them. Jamie has been there forever and is another miserable one. I could care less and do not engage in fights or even negotiate with sex workers (no offense to anyone reading this). Always have to look out for #1 and I will not let myself get involved in any kind of situation. My guess is that business is slow and she needs to up her income. I simply will not go back.

Desi,

From what i've read about you on here, I would tip you well too. You seem to have the right attitude. I do live on LI and should try you out one time.

The Zomby Woof
 
paulbunyon

paulbunyon

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Zwoof said:
Bunyon,

This isn't a place with a table shower. It's just a nice hj place. I live on LI and if you check the threads there you will see that there is a movement to actually negotiate down from the 60/40 (hr/half hour) rates to 50/30. Granted, the LI places are skeezy AMPS but the service is the same and you can usually get their tops off.

Also, there were many hj only AMPs up here that were standard 40+20 for 30 mins. The cops shut all of these down. I guess Deidra's can try and negotiate a better tip because of this but I don't see a line of guys out of their door either. If anything, they should be happy with $20 in this economy. I'm sure some guys are cutting back.

Anywho, none of these girls is worth $100 for a hj so I wish them the best of luck.
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Man, I'm gonna have to start going up there for my massages from now on. Unless I'm totally out of the loop, any kind of decent AMP around me is usually at least $100 total. I wish some NNJ guys would chime in because I can't seem to find anything less than that. Maybe I'm not negotiating enough.

I'm afraid to tell you guys what I spend at the LMPs lolol
 
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DoctorBeaver

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Zwoof said:
I did try and ask her what tip she was looking for. She deflected though. She also told me that she gets NONE of the house fee. The Zomby Woof
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If she would not tell you what she was looking for by way of tip, you should have left the tip you left and walked right out. That is uncalled for to throw a hissy fit and not even say what it is you are looking for. It's also very typical behavior from British ladies in my experience. I have met very few Brits who did not feel that they were vastly higher on the food chain than everyone else. I could never understand where this attitude comes from, since if we had not bailed their asses out in WWII, they would all be speaking German and saluting Hitler's portrait.

I am not sure why anyone would want to go to a salon where the most mileage you are going to get is a fully clothed hand job. I would rather jerk off to the current edition of Playboy magazine for free. And if you are a thrifty hobbyist, and that is why you are going here in the 1st place, might as well be ultra thrifty and give yourself a freebie.
 
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Zwoof

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I'm not thrifty...there's just a value for cetain services. I pay $300 for a nude massage/HJ from one of those super hot chicks that come around every now and then and I can't wait for her to come back (check previous posts if interested). Sometimes I pay for FS and I'll get a $400 escort. Sometimes I just want a nice HJ and that is <$100 at most places. I just take offense to some 40's 6 in looks hassling me for more money when she doesn't even take her top off. There has to be a base tip to start from and it is the girl's responsibility to earn more or negotiate for more. I wouldn't doubt if other guys tip more at this place though. This place is nice and the girls are not asian. I can see some guys feeling more safe at a place like this and not wanting to go to the real skeezy asian places. Even I won't go to Bridgeport. As if!!
 
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desilove

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Just a womans point of view but i agree with you Zwoof...I tip 20 when i get a massage but i only pay 49 for an hr (no happy ending keeps the price down;))..If it was 80 id still tip 20 but id never tip more...i think it stinks they dont get a bigger cut but thats something she should take up with management not a cust.

However after reading her statement of "not getting anything" i called an old friend "S" (w/o mention of this) to find out the scoop and she is full of baloney....they do get a cut and as of a call last night i know for fact they get more than what we used to get , so tech she made 47 off of her session with you so she needs a slap with the reality stick.

And id stay out of bridgeport too, but if your ever in the mood for some killer wings, there used to be a great place called Sports Page, awesome!
 
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alecalf

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going to bridgeport

desilove said:
And id stay out of bridgeport too, but if your ever in the mood for some killer wings, there used to be a great place called Sports Page, awesome!
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Now hold on there, you know Bridgeport, Desi. Going to Bpt for the Daily Double of Drumstik Bar-B-Q 4189 Main Street; then a block or 2 down the road for Osaka Oriental Spa 3941 Main St works. Uptown in a nice area. Both affordable both satisfy each in its own way.
 
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DoctorBeaver

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Drum Stik Barbecue

Holy Shit, Drum Stik Barbecue is still there?????? I can recall back in around 1980 when I was in high school one of my buddies had his car greased by his ex girlfriend who took some of their greasy chicken and rubbed the fatty and greasy parts all over his car's windshield. I thought it was pretty funny because she knew how much he loved his car and all that fucking chicken grease over it freaked him out. In the realm of spiteful ex girlfriend behavior that was pretty creative and also harmless, except on his nerves.
 
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