Ctrlaltdlt vs Oldguynewhobby

[oldguynewhobby]

Yumiko

Busy day 3 appointments completed and then decided to reach out to see who DDY had available and I was shocked to see Yumiko on the list. Sad to see her leave Shangrila but very happy to see her resurface today at DDY. Booked that appointment asap.

CiCi answers the door and I have to be honest I want some of that. She’s so sweet! Puts me in the little waiting area behind the curtain. A minute later she opens it back up and like magic Yumiko is in the hall. Yumiko’s eyes light up and she smiles as she recognizes me from our Shangrila visit a couple days before.

@Ctrlaltdlt if you haven’t tried this girl you’ll love her. She’s a like a Miyuu in training. Very sweet and cute. Thin body. Nice butt you’ll love grabbing. Her skin does that puckering as you touch her.

Showered first and she’s gentle and attentive. Back to the room. She’s in the little room at the end of the hall - Anan’s room. I layed down and she crawled on top and started sucking my nipples very slowly and softly. Very much reminded me of Miyuu with this slow delicate nature to her. From here she moved to the BBBJ, but before doing so she licked each ball thoroughly - it was fantastic. I mean long deliberate strokes of the tongue all over each ball. Then she started sucking the cock.

Little DATY and she’s delicious. Then I got on top of her and kissed her neck chest and nipples and started mish. Had a better go at her in standing mish - although I really miss a bed corner in the small rooms. Doggy a little bit. Then more mish and standing mish. We had a nice slow enjoyable pace but the 2 hours still flew by. We showered I noticed the room next door looked open and I contemplated a 3rd hour as we went back into the small room. She was still wrapped in her towel and me in mine and just started kissing her - said yes to 3 hours, but I told her we are going to use the bigger room. I grab my clothes and shoes and enter the other room but now Dolly is in there and she’s looking all goddess like so you know what happened. I told Yumiko thanks and ended up taking Dolly for the next session.

Damage $800 I never asked the rate. It was $380 at SL. I do owe her a bigger tip for the BBFS which I’ll have to make up for tomorrow. She previously told me $200 for that but with the commotion of the room change and change in girl I shorted Yumiko and she didn’t even complain. I’ll make this right.
Recommend Yes
Repeat Yes

 

[Ctrlaltdlt]

@Ctrlaltdlt if you haven’t tried this girl you’ll love her. She’s a like a Miyuu in training. Very sweet and cute. Thin body. Nice butt you’ll love grabbing. Her skin does that puckering as you touch her.

Damage $800 I never asked the rate. It was $380 at SL. I do owe her a bigger tip for the BBFS which I’ll have to make up for tomorrow. She previously told me $200 for that but with the commotion of the room change and change in girl I shorted Yumiko and she didn’t even complain. I’ll make this right.
Recommend Yes
Repeat Yes

I have not seen her yet. But bro you intentionally shorted her for BBFS after already knowing the prices? Even if you thought she was the same rate at sl of $380 you only left a $40 tip in your mind. What a way to crush her ego by shorting then changing girls. You did that to Miyuu too when you left without the tip.

 

[billyS]

I have not seen her yet. But bro you intentionally shorted her for BBFS after already knowing the prices? Even if you thought she was the same rate at sl of $380 you only left a $40 tip in your mind. What a way to crush her ego by shorting then changing girls. You did that to Miyuu too when you left without the tip.

Do you know this to be true?
I don't like accusations against other members unless they can be backed up.

I'm not saying your wrong but I'd like to know how you know for sure he is shorting the girls on tips.

 

[The Exiled]

Did anybody read the last paragraph of his post???

 

[billyS]

Did anybody read the last paragraph of his post???

I think people read it but......
1) they aren't buying it
2) it doesn't explain why he also gyped Miyuu.
That is if he really did.
Ball is in @Ctrlaltdlt 's court to prove his accusations.

 

[The Exiled]

With his level of spending, money is not a concern. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Nor would he sully his reputation at these places.

 

[Ctrlaltdlt]

Do you know this to be true?
I don't like accusations against other members unless they can be backed up.

I'm not saying your wrong but I'd like to know how you know for sure he is shorting the girls on tips.

He admitted himself that the 2nd time around he had a much different experience. If he got double free upgrades and not on a returning visit then something is wrong. I don't know how else to prove that because Miyuu obviously remembered him shorting/not leaving her a tip.

Yes free upgrade that day and for the whole second session that first day. But not so lucky yesterday.

his recent review with Yumiko was the same, he knowingly (admitted knowing the price) went BBFS yet he still left a $40 (in reality $80 because he thought she was $380/hr still) and ended up changing girls. So he definitely had cash on him, he either used that upcharge tip for the hour and change in girls or he was going to go 3 hours and still skip her on the tip.

ban me if you want, but one thing I can not stand for is assholes scamming hard working girls. Escorts or not they’re still human beings trying to make a living.

 

[oldguynewhobby]

I have not seen her yet. But bro you intentionally shorted her for BBFS after already knowing the prices? Even if you thought she was the same rate at sl of $380 you only left a $40 tip in your mind. What a way to crush her ego by shorting then changing girls. You did that to Miyuu too when you left without the tip.

Yes I don’t agree with that statement about Miyuu. I very clearly said she gave free upgrade my first day. Then you mentioned $200 and every session thereafter I gave $200 tip. Then you mentioned $100 and I kept giving $200. So I definitely made up for day 1.

 

[oldguynewhobby]

He admitted himself that the 2nd time around he had a much different experience. If he got double free upgrades and not on a returning visit then something is wrong. I don't know how else to prove that because Miyuu obviously remembered him shorting/not leaving her a tip.



his recent review with Yumiko was the same, he knowingly (admitted knowing the price) went BBFS yet he still left a $40 (in reality $80 because he thought she was $380/hr still) and ended up changing girls. So he definitely had cash on him, he either used that upcharge tip for the hour and change in girls or he was going to go 3 hours and still skip her on the tip.

ban me if you want, but one thing I can not stand for is assholes scamming hard working girls. Escorts or not they’re still human beings trying to make a living.

Lol scamming these girls?? I’ve donated more sessions in 5 months than you can fathom. Clearly never shorted anyone intentionally. And the sheer volume of multiple hour sessions clearly shows the girl I’m supporting them.

 

[Ctrlaltdlt]

Lol scamming these girls?? I’ve donated more sessions in 5 months than you can fathom. Clearly never shorted anyone intentionally. And the sheer volume of multiple hour sessions clearly shows the girl I’m supporting them.

We’re not here to talk about bankroll, we’re here to talk about why you would owe her a bigger tip if you “donated more in 5 months than I can fathom”.

This all started with 1. You tagged me and asked me if I had seen her yet and 2. You ended up owing her money.

How could I see a potential girl of interest if I can not trust a review from someone who has such a “big bankroll” yet still has to owe the girl money even though you knew well in advance of the prices? It’s like going to Masa to eat dinner for 3 hours knowing well that it’s a 3-michelin star restaurant @ $1000 per person but not having the cash and telling the restaurant “oh I’ll be back tomorrow to eat again and pay for 2 days”.

Need I remind everyone why I feel this way, it was ever since our very own mod said something. He asked me to prove my accusations and this is me pulling up quotes and facts straight from this review board and thread.

You have an awful lot of reviews for this place and Dream Dream.
132 posts and all but three or four of them are for these two places.

So we’ll go back to the original question of why do you need to owe this girl a bigger tip if you obviously had the cash on you?

 

[oldguynewhobby]

As I originally said in the review the shortage was clearly an accident. I paid her for the 2 hours while I was already with Dolly in the other room. Just hustled to get her the money and forgot about the upgrade money. Only been with her twice and first time I didn’t get the upgrade and it’s not something I typically do so not part of my payout routine. I was completely honest and transparent about forgetting it and what I paid but what the cost actually should be if you do want BBFS.

 

[Doctego]

Based on the amount of time that OGNH spends there, I believe that the most logical explanation is that it was an honest mistake. Otherwise, I can’t see him being welcome there.

My questions would be did he pay her the forgotten tip eventually and, if so, how long after?

If it was me, I’d do it ASAP and I’d offer double for the misunderstanding that was entirely my fault. Take that FWIW because I’m not in the business of telling people how to spend their money.

 

[oldguynewhobby]

The mistake happened Saturday. I was back at DDY tonight and as soon as got in I asked to talk to Yumiko. I apologized and gave her the $200. She thought I wanted a session, she was confused but definitely not upset and wasn’t expecting the money. I made sure Emily brought me a translator so I could explain the situation clearly and apologize for the mistake. She was fine.

 

[Doctego]

The mistake happened Saturday. I was back at DDY tonight and as soon as got in I asked to talk to Yumiko. I apologized and gave her the $200. She thought I wanted a session, she was confused but definitely not upset and wasn’t expecting the money. I made sure Emily brought me a translator so I could explain the situation clearly and apologize for the mistake. She was fine.

Glad that you finally took care of it. If she’s fine and Emily was fine, I don’t see how anyone else can have a problem.

 

[Ctrlaltdlt]

As I originally said in the review the shortage was clearly an accident. I paid her for the 2 hours while I was already with Dolly in the other room. Just hustled to get her the money and forgot about the upgrade money. Only been with her twice and first time I didn’t get the upgrade and it’s not something I typically do so not part of my payout routine. I was completely honest and transparent about forgetting it and what I paid but what the cost actually should be if you do want BBFS.

I still don’t understand how you would “forget” if your bankroll is “something I cannot fathom”. That’s like saying I was rushing out of town for my family vacation but I “forgot” to process payroll to pay my employees.

Based on all of your reviews you leave an average tip of $0-20 and occasionally $40-60. Your past reviews of Dolly was mainly $340 + $20. So by creature of habit that 3rd hour with dolly would’ve been $340 + $20 maybe $40-60. So that means you were holding $1,200 in cash at most. If you stayed 3 hours with Yumiko that would have been $1,080 + $200 you still would have shorted her for the upgrades so there is no way you “forgot” because you weren’t holding enough cash in the first place.

Story and math does not add up. And if you had extra cash that day why wait 4 days? I’m just trying to make sense of all this because if this story doesn’t make sense and add up, then how do we know your reviews are real? Billy has already questioned you about 90% of all your reviews, that only planted a seed and now it’s being watered.

 

[oldguynewhobby]

I had the money but didn’t think about the upgrade until I wrote the review. My session with Dolly I also gave her $400 for the hour.

Talk to Emily or Daisy or any of the girls about any of my reviews. I’ve got nothing to hide.

Bottom line I told you what I paid, what I should have paid and that it has been corrected.

 

[Ctrlaltdlt]

Like I said, $800 + $400 = $1200, Yumiko total would’ve been $1280 so that would have been shorted regardless. But now you are saying you had the money? But you took the upgrade without thinking until you got home to write the review? So what you are saying is you took the upgrade and walked out without paying because you forgot and wanted to change girls but tipped the other girl $60 instead of tipping Yumiko at least half of the upcharge?

Your story keeps changing.

 

[Ctrlaltdlt]

And there is no need to ask any of the shop girls, because if they’re paying you for reviews of course they will protect you.

I am solely dissecting what you are saying, because nothing you are saying is adding up.

 

[oldguynewhobby]

Like I said, $800 + $400 = $1200, Yumiko total would’ve been $1280 so that would have been shorted regardless. But now you are saying you had the money? But you took the upgrade without thinking until you got home to write the review? So what you are saying is you took the upgrade and walked out without paying because you forgot and wanted to change girls but tipped the other girl $60 instead of tipping Yumiko at least half of the upcharge?

Your story keeps changing.

My story hasn’t changed at all. What don’t you get? Gave Yumiko $800 for 2 hours and Dolly $400 for one. I don’t normally get upgrades so it wasn’t until I wrote the review and realized I got BBFS but forgot to pay. FYI if you must know I withdrew $1,500 from the ATM on my way in so I had $300 still when I left. Didn’t intend to short her anything but didn’t think about the upgrade fee until I was already home later that night writing the review. That’s as clear as I can make it for you. I’m done. If you think the shops are paying me for the reviews look at the review I just posted at Shangrila for Yasmine. Wawa wasn’t happy about that - but it had to be said. I write so someone else gets a sense of what my experience was and maybe they will enjoy the same or skip. Can we be done now?

 

[Ctrlaltdlt]

My story hasn’t changed at all. What don’t you get? Gave Yumiko $800 for 2 hours and Dolly $400 for one. I don’t normally get upgrades so it wasn’t until I wrote the review and realized I got BBFS but forgot to pay. FYI if you must know I withdrew $1,500 from the ATM on my way in so I had $300 still when I left. Didn’t intend to short her anything but didn’t think about the upgrade fee until I was already home later that night writing the review. That’s as clear as I can make it for you. I’m done. If you think the shops are paying me for the reviews look at the review I just posted at Shangrila for Yasmine. Wawa wasn’t happy about that - but it had to be said. I write so someone else gets a sense of what my experience was and maybe they will enjoy the same or skip. Can we be done now?

Just to make things clear:

• You’ve seen Miyuu on multiple sessions and you always paid $200 after the session where she didn’t let you have bbfs (or whatever happened) you had, so you remembered every time after that.
• You forgot to pay Yumiko because you forgot and the reason is because you normally do not get bbfs even though you always remembered with Miyuu on multiple sessions.

Am I missing any information from these two key points? Or is my information correct based off of what you said and your reviews.