Andy Petitte Hall Of Famer?
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You have to draw the line somewhere. He does have 5 rings and his postseason record is still very good ... especially when you consider you are playing the best teams in the postseason. If you put Andy in ... then all of a sudden then everybody is going to say guys like Tommy JOhn should get in.
Again ... I am on the fence and this is why you wait whatever it is ... 4 or 5 years to vote. Time gives you more perspective to make a better decision.
Again ... I am on the fence and this is why you wait whatever it is ... 4 or 5 years to vote. Time gives you more perspective to make a better decision.
Pitching for the Mets (Seaver aside) is mostly pitching unimportant no pressure games. If Petitte has the same numbers without the post season record or 5 WS rings I'd say he's borderline at best. But he pitched in pressure situations, shares or holds two remarkable records... one being on an elite list of HoF pitchers and the other post season consistency. And how many times did he pitch a great must win game. Whitey Ford had similar numbers and he played on an even better team. You can also argue Petitte pitched during the roid era or his ERA might be lower. But in the end his name is on the PED list and that will probably keep him out permanently. If anyone on that list gets in it will be guys like Bonds and Clemens. The borderline players who used might never get in.
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I think many people believe Pettitte when he says he only used HGH the one time to help him get over his elbow issues. I could be wrong or naive. On the other hand I think A-Rod/Bonds/Clemens/Sosa/Maguire all used them nonstop.
I think the writers may see a difference ... or maybe not. I can't see any of those guys ever getting in. Pettitte ... may be an exception ... if they believe him.
On another note. Has anyone noticed JOhn Wetteland recently? Very skinny. He was a big dude on the Yankees.
I think the writers may see a difference ... or maybe not. I can't see any of those guys ever getting in. Pettitte ... may be an exception ... if they believe him.
On another note. Has anyone noticed JOhn Wetteland recently? Very skinny. He was a big dude on the Yankees.
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Most wins in postseason history, 5 rings. went 4-0 in the 2009 postseason. His winning percentage is huge. He used HGH to get over an injury. It isn't like he got better as he got older or he was a guy that ever threw overly hard.
He pitched important games over his entire career.
I might be leaning towards giving him the nod. Time will treat him well.
He pitched important games over his entire career.
I might be leaning towards giving him the nod. Time will treat him well.
I think you guys dismiss him too easily. When looking at his regular season numbers you may have a point. However ... his winning percentage is among the best in baseball history. Then you have to look at his postseason performances. Heck ... the guy was 4-0 in 2009! LIke I said ... we have a few years to look at him. He didn't have a stretch where he was considered a Cy Young candidate on a yearly basis .... BUT ... he was ALWAYS VERY GOOD FROM 2004 through 2013!! How many pitchers can you say that about?
How many pitchers that are active now are going to get in and who is better for Pettitte over that long of a span? How about Johan Santana??? One of the best for a few years but a very short career. Who else? Verlander? YES! But how long will he be good for? He is already slipping. Lincecom??? Another who may have a short span of brilliance.
Being VERY GOOD for 20 years is something to consider!
How many pitchers that are active now are going to get in and who is better for Pettitte over that long of a span? How about Johan Santana??? One of the best for a few years but a very short career. Who else? Verlander? YES! But how long will he be good for? He is already slipping. Lincecom??? Another who may have a short span of brilliance.
Being VERY GOOD for 20 years is something to consider!