Fun, fun and more fun

[sexpert]

First I would like to start off stating that I did not write the Main Title because it is grammatically incorrect. LOL.

As everyone knows I had a np4p extracurricular activity for a while and it was great while it lasted. Everything was awesome and for some reason extracurricular activity partners are willing to do ANYTHING you want. I could have told this bitch to put mayonnaise on her ass and let me throw processed cheese slices at her if I told her that it turned me on. We pretty much did everything that you see on straight porn including anal into mouth nqnstc and the big finish swallowing. But it ended because she was ready to leave her husband for me and no way in hell was I going to leave my family. Things got ugly, threats were made but eventually was settled and we parted ways.

I was on a dry spell for a bit and visited an AMP on division street to pass the time. I think I made a small review on that place at on time or another a few months ago. I met Jessie there who I became friends with and we ended up going to Foxwoods Casino weekly. There she introduced me a friend who introduced me to another friend who worked Hartford at an AMP. This is where my little adventure began.

She was 5'2" tall, orange brown hair, nice large B cups, 22 years old, from Shanghai and been here for 3 years. She was very pretty with brown almond shaped eyes and a very cute little girl voice.

Her name is Ann or Anh, whatever. We hit it off right away. And was on the roulette table together. I was showing her a new system that my friend was messing with at the time. (I understand that most systems do not work and always needs more luck than skills but give a guy a break ok?). Well I have been playing this system for a month and it was working for me, 4 visits, 3 wins and 1 loss. I don't know if she was my lucky charm or not but we ended up winning close to 5 grand each in a matter of 4 hours.

We took a limo back to Flushing and spent the day together eating and walking around. I had actually told my wife that I had a business meeting at Foxwoods for a few days and in case I was spotted there, I would have a good excuse. We spent the next 4 days together because she told me that she needed a break from work. We exchanged numbers, me (Tmobile prepaid 2nd hidden phone) and her cell as well as work number.

She moved down to Flushing to work to be closer to me at some Tui Na place. We saw one another 3 times a week and spent lots of time at the Queens Motor Inn. She is a wild child but always played safe with all her clients and always BB for me, so she claimed, I really have no idea but after 4 tubes of blood and negatives all over with the exception of my triglycerides being a bit high everything is clean.

Her feelings for me obviously grew. She had no idea that I was married with kids and thought that I was a car service driver since I drive a Lincoln. Then one day she tells me that a "wei guo ren" white guy offered to whisk her away and marry her. It kinda hurt for that one second but it actually made me pissed, so I told her to just marry him then and stormed away.

A week passed.
Next thing you know she is telling me that she is pregnant with my baby and does not want to drop the baby. I took her to a clinic and had a blood test and indeed she was really pregos. My fuckin heart dropped. I did not want a bastard child running around with my genes, let alone a whore for a mother. I later found out that she was shooting up heroin as well.

I lost contact with her for a month.
Then I see her walking hand in hand with an older white guy in Chinatown. I smile and go my own way. She looks like she has been through hell and no longer had that youth in her eyes. I later found out from a friend that she lost the baby early. I have no idea if it was mine or not.

It has been a crazy 2 years for me.

I think it is time for me to really settle down.

Maybe a few paid times once in a while but I am no longer going to invest anymore time for np4p. It actually costs a lot more mentally.

Man I have never had my thoughts so jumbled. If anyone gets a headache or is confused, I apologize. Right now, I am just trying to settle down my emotions and put all my efforts towards my family, at least enough to seem normal before I start mongering again. And when I do, I will keep to my old ways, BSing to get more for my dollar and not investing anything else.

 

[justme]

That's a hell of a ride!

 

[humsuplo]

That's a hell of a ride!

DITTO.

No wonder you were gone for so long.

 

[Lascivious]

Looking back, I bet you still wouldn't trade those two years for two years of regular family life. I think having a side girlfriend would be too mentally taxing for me to handle. The constant deception to both parties and the fear of being seen by somebody would break me down eventually. Heck, you had it both ways and it turned out bad. The first one knew you were married and the second one didn't but it turned out the same towards the ends..bad. But at least you had a lengthy time period where you were having a great time. I wish I could do that but I know myself and that's why I stick to p4p. It's a hollow but useful transaction. I applaud you for being able to do that and I hope you're able to reinvigorate yourself for future adventures.

 

[Sidekicks]

Sexpert,
That was a crazy experience!!!! Glad to see you back on the boards.

 

[sexpert]

Looking back, I bet you still wouldn't trade those two years for two years of regular family life. I think having a side girlfriend would be too mentally taxing for me to handle. The constant deception to both parties and the fear of being seen by somebody would break me down eventually. Heck, you had it both ways and it turned out bad. The first one knew you were married and the second one didn't but it turned out the same towards the ends..bad. But at least you had a lengthy time period where you were having a great time. I wish I could do that but I know myself and that's why I stick to p4p. It's a hollow but useful transaction. I applaud you for being able to do that and I hope you're able to reinvigorate yourself for future adventures.

Actually I would trade those 2 years for 2 years of regular family life. I am enjoying it more than ever now. As for the mentally taxing part, you hit it right on the tack! That shit will literally kill you mentally. Even the first GF who knew I was married, I had to lie to her as well because it keeps up the appearance that you actually love her and not the wife. Balancing bashing the wife and telling her love her just to get that little extra loving is not a pleasant nor easy task.

For those who are married out there, if you are thinking about it, it NEVER works out, no matter how masterful you think you are. I thought I was in total control the first year but now that I look back, I barely had a grip on my life and did allow some emotions take over, even though at the time I would not admit it. p4p is the way to go man. These were not my first np4p's but they were the only ones that really messed me up.

I had a few AMP GFs in the past but never invested much time as I did these last 2. I had a GF from a 100% HR place in Brooklyn. Banged her for months without any investment and left her when I was at the R&T and literally told her that I had a fight with my GF. She ignored me from that day on. Funny thing is, one of her friends from the R&T went right after me. These bitches will do anything for a greencard, so I played on that. I think I will just do this from now on if I decide to continue np4p adventures.

 

[dirkjones]

Wow Sexpert... I am not married but I will still apply your lessons learned to my life. I've had scary moments with having multiple partners while in a relationship but I can't imagine being married and thinking you got a whore pregnant. I've actually been going back to the same chick at an AMP and the last two times I did her BB. I was tested afterwards and everything checked out... but still I think it's a risky game I'm playing now but when in the moment I can't resist.

 

[Lascivious]

I've actually been going back to the same chick at an AMP and the last two times I did her BB. I was tested afterwards and everything checked out... but still I think it's a risky game I'm playing now but when in the moment I can't resist.

Dude, you're playing with your life. All you need is for the test to turn out positive one time and then what. You're fucked for life. Remember, you AREN'T the only one she's BB with. Play safe. You'll enjoy the hobby longer.

 

[Ryanscot]

but I can't imagine being married and thinking you got a whore pregnant.

I had an AMP girlfriend for 3 years. She had quit the AMP (she lived with her parents
and young daughter) We had gotten on very well, and she proposed a "relationship".
It worked out great - 2-4 times a month for the better part of 3 years. Love hotels,
dinners, a play, a concert. Fun, fun, fun - great times. I paid her something monthly - like about $800. We spent a minimum of 2 hrs together each time. We were going BB. To make a long story short, I got the dreaded phone call - she was pregnant. She aborted. We got through that OK. But a few months later she was diagnosed with a form of ovarian cancer. She blamed me and the pregnancy on her condition.

Many months earlier, I had gotten her a credit card to use - which she handled responsibly. She decided to take her condition out on me, and the next thing I knew, I got a call from the CC company, telling me that $6,000 was recently charged to the card. There was nothing I could do as she was an authorized user.

Bad, bad, ending. 3 years of great fun turned into a disaster.

 

[Lascivious]

Wow, I think these threads have proven to be a cathartic release. It almost seems to always end up badly when taking a relationship beyond the client-provider one with an amp girl. But I can see why the temptation is so strong. If my finances were better, I probably would be writing a tale of sorrow and regret. Ryan, were those three years of "bliss" worth it?

 

[Ryanscot]

At the time it ended, it did not seem worth it. It was upsetting and very stressful dealing with it. However, in retrospect, I have to say it was worth it. I had such great times with this girl. Seeing her was so easy – she never, ever gave me a hard time about ANYTHING. She was agreeable to everything I wanted to do, and where I wanted to do it. She was always, always punctual. I would characterize her as a non-typical AMP girl. Again, living at home with her parents and daughter, plus I was as sure as I could be sure that she never went back to work at an AMP again, nor did she cultivate other "relationships". I know some will say I am only kidding myself, but after 3 years with her, I think I was pretty tuned in to the realities of her life. She did wind up working a normal job at an insurance company in Chinatown shortly after leaving the AMP scene. The parting shot of 6K hurt badly, but 3 years of great, hot, illicit fun with a cute, young Asian (she was actually half Chinese and half Vietnamese - and 26 when I met her), at a reasonable price was for me, a once in a lifetime situation that will never be repeated.

 

[dirkjones]

Dude, you're playing with your life. All you need is for the test to turn out positive one time and then what. You're fucked for life. Remember, you AREN'T the only one she's BB with. Play safe. You'll enjoy the hobby longer.

I know... I honestly didn't go with that in mind, we were just getting so into it she popped me into her without the condom and I was so turned on I couldn't stop. I will use a condom next time regardless... after I get the second batch of test results.

 

[pleasure_seeker]

p4p

Someone wise once told me that you don't pay to play, but rather you pay so that you can leave with no strings attached.
At the end of the day, you end up paying someone... it's just that with p4p, there's no need to deal with any mental crap.

 

[lightweight]

Several years ago, I decided to p4p due to that dreaded letter in the mail. Well I had my gf on the side thing going for over a year. Well at first, she was like, I really like you and I would never do anything to hurt you. Well, the sex was incredible. I mean, incredible, and any time I wanted it. Any time. She even brought other women in for me for a threesome because she knew that I loved that. Well as time went on, she mentioned several times to me, Would you ever leave your family? I said, no, and if that is a problem, I'm out. She convinced me that she was moving out West in a few months, so let just keep it the way it is and when I leave, It will end. Well that sounded good to me. Well, one thing lead to another, The job out West fall through, and now she wants me all to herself and to leave my family. I said that we have to end this now. She did not take this too well and told me that she loved me so much which she had told me all the time but usually while hitting her in the ass so I paid it no mind but I never said it back. Well, I had to get tough and tell her, Lokk, I do not love you. I will never leave my family. I told her that she knew the situation the whole time. I said, firmly, we are done. Well, now one evening, I come home from work, and there is my wife, holding a letter that she had just received in the male from this girl. Well, to say the least, it said it all. I mean, she mentioned the times we were together, places we went, thing that we did. Things that I said about my wife, marriage. Well of coarse, I lied and lied and lied for months about it. Then with my marriage on the rocks, I did admit to some blow jobs. I said there were no feelings on my side just blow jobs, and just a few. Well, now married 18 years, and very strong marriage, it is never brought up any more but it did take 2 yrs before she stopped bringing it up. So now I p4p and only sometimes do I try for that side thing. I don't want to, but I can't help myself. I think that somewhere on here has a thread for breaking the addiction. I should check that out.

 

[trigeek]

This has to be one of the best threads on this board in the last 2-3 years. Your guys stories are a great education. Thanks.............

 

[Lascivious]

Wow, it sounded like you did everything right(being honest and upfront with her) and it still bit you in the ass. I guess non p4p woman tend not to be able to separate emotions from sex. I'm glad your marriage worked out and it's great you told this story because a lot of hobbyist can learn something from it. Thanks and I concur that this is one of the best threads around.

 

[xango_de_sade]

Of course he wasn't honest and upfront with HIS WIFE, and that is a point that doesn't work in his favor. Not to judge or anything, I have lived in that glass house myself. But it is what it is.

 

[celtic knight]

I am married 46 years and have never done non p4p. I pay women to leave. Take it from this Knight - pay to keep your lance stiff, and forget about any outside emotional attachments.

 

[sexpert]

I am married 46 years and have never done non p4p. I pay women to leave. Take it from this Knight - pay to keep your lance stiff, and forget about any outside emotional attachments.

AMEN!

 

[lightweight]

We all like the p4p but you know, when you are out and like it has said on many occasions on this board, you get the look, from a female, and not only are you horney but the competitive juices start flowing, like, can I get her? Yea, I wish that I was strictly p4p, but I am out with the guys, I guess, I just can't say no. I think that part of this is that you are kind of leading a double life. You have a family life, wife kids, dogs, house, family friends, And then when you are away, out, I know that I fell like I have a different life, outside the home, weather I pay or not.